Skill Rework - Ice Nova and Vortex

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sidtherat wrote:
you do not accomplish anything in this game. all you do here (unless you RMT) is wasting your time - this is a GAME. not a CAREER..

this game is a wealth farming sim - and what matters is how fast you do it. your build SUCKS at this. time to understand how current game looks like and how it plays. speed speed speed speed - build that requires TWO clicks for one action is 50% shit

you do not have 'decent' clear speed. the damage is mediocre. all because you combine one good skill (frostbolt) with turd (vortex) for no reason

there is no benefit to this combination. you can do it. but there is literally no reason other than 'being different'




"there is literally no reason other than 'being different"

HOLY SH1T I MIGHT BE GETTING THROUGH TO SOMEONE!!!!!


That is the point. I don't want to run a cookie cutter build 40,000,000 kids have built. I wanted to use the software they created to truly theory-craft a build from scratch based off nothing.

My aspiration in this game isn't to get an ocular migraine or sell my mirror for $250.00.

This is a presupposition that everyone wants to instant clear everything in the game. I pick up low mats when I'm broke. I grab shit to craft. I stop and convert strong boxes. I clear maps to 10 or less monsters.
Last edited by Kijostyle420 on Oct 30, 2018, 3:59:15 AM
NoICE.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
There was a time Vortex was something with chain explosions of HoI with AoE gem before all the aoe slaughter.

But as i said before in this post Vortex could have been a channeling cold skill like Ray of Frost with Steel Storm rune from D3. It fits the name and it could have been a real rework separating it from Ice Nova/Cold Snap look alike skill.
and thats fine - thats the reason i play(ed) melee

sadly in this case you are directly gimping yourself using this 'mechanic' and most likely the 'rework' wont change that

this all ceases to matter once you mention that your build has decent clear speed etc - at this point it is no longer 'i do what i like' but 'it works decently'.. well, it doesnt. and thats the point


you can make it work. it can be fun (if it is for you - +1!) but it is weak, outdated and absolutely cannot be compared with any even non-meta build.. it has nothing to do with insta-grat etc. it just sucks at clearspeed meta
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There was a time Vortex was something with chain explosions of HoI with AoE gem before all the aoe slaughter.

But as i said before in this post Vortex could have been a channeling cold skill like Ray of Frost with Steel Storm rune from D3. It fits the name and it could have been a real rework separating it from Ice Nova/Cold Snap look alike skill.


It should absolutely channel - my only other option is POETS PEN to "practically" achieve this!
Last edited by Kijostyle420 on Oct 30, 2018, 4:00:58 AM
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sidtherat wrote:
and thats fine - thats the reason i play(ed) melee

sadly in this case you are directly gimping yourself using this 'mechanic' and most likely the 'rework' wont change that

this all ceases to matter once you mention that your build has decent clear speed etc - at this point it is no longer 'i do what i like' but 'it works decently'.. well, it doesnt. and thats the point


you can make it work. it can be fun (if it is for you - +1!) but it is weak, outdated and absolutely cannot be compared with any even non-meta build.. it has nothing to do with insta-grat etc. it just sucks at clearspeed meta



Again, if they added 40% increased cold damage to self cast I could probably beat you in PVP! My char is almost able to tank everything. I can tank The Enslaver on red maps. I destroyed the Hall of Grandmasters.

Why should you be able to endlessly attack (up close) without dying because your leech is more effective. The leech or DPS has to be equal if you casting in place.

Last edited by Kijostyle420 on Oct 30, 2018, 4:07:23 AM
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sidtherat wrote:
and thats fine - thats the reason i play(ed) melee

sadly in this case you are directly gimping yourself using this 'mechanic' and most likely the 'rework' wont change that

this all ceases to matter once you mention that your build has decent clear speed etc - at this point it is no longer 'i do what i like' but 'it works decently'.. well, it doesnt. and thats the point


you can make it work. it can be fun (if it is for you - +1!) but it is weak, outdated and absolutely cannot be compared with any even non-meta build.. it has nothing to do with insta-grat etc. it just sucks at clearspeed meta


"it just sucks at clearspeed meta"

I posted a video of my character steamrolling T16 corrupted map (except boss) extremely quickly compared to other builds that cant even clear the map and just run past champions n rares.

Your point about clear speed is a joke. I demonstrate my clear speed here:
https://youtu.be/qH1Ol4pOz9g?t=77 Watch for 35 seconds.

Again, I am taking it relatively easy to show the mechanics.

Yes it is not the fastest build. That is FINE! I don't need to go as fast as you.
I race over 110mph and pull 4G's in turns in REAL LIFE, on WATER!

I use this game to get away from my life moving 1000mph....
Last edited by Kijostyle420 on Oct 30, 2018, 4:57:11 AM
Every time GGG adds a cooldown to a skill I just forget about that skill forever. Wht can't you understand... Cooldowns are not fun, and this is a game GGG, cmon. You have the tech to see how many cooldown skills are used.
WOW! These reworks look AMAZIIIING!! Very COOL (no buns haha silly boys)! I'm looking forward to 3.5 where I can use these new, reworked, amazing, sublime, excellent skills to clear tier three maps in 5 minutes, can't wait!

GGG™ does it again, they are the best!














(Chris if you're reading this i really need the 5 points you promised me for new stash™ tabs™)
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There was a time Vortex was something with chain explosions of HoI with AoE gem before all the aoe slaughter.

But as i said before in this post Vortex could have been a channeling cold skill like Ray of Frost with Steel Storm rune from D3. It fits the name and it could have been a real rework separating it from Ice Nova/Cold Snap look alike skill.


yes quite unreal. 2 very popular games. D3 and PoE. both couldn't get this spell right.

even though in the background they are data mining everything said and done and PoE had a DIRECT EXAMPLE from which to base their changes on from D3.
Last edited by Kijostyle420 on Oct 30, 2018, 4:48:13 AM

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