{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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Gorkk wrote:

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gaucetank12345 wrote:

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Gorkk wrote:

You can look within the last 5-6 pages I think people were talking about it, but essentially it seems to work well (Slave Drivers are OP :p), and comes down to:

• switch to wrath instead of hatred
• switch to another spell to apply EE, or take a point in Avatar of Fire
• change the spectres link (at least replacing GMP with Spell Echo)
• go full spectre, i.e. remove the Summon Phantasm support

what do you mean by switching to another spell to apply EE?

Considering your spectres will do lightning damage if you use Slave Drivers, you don't want to be dealing lightning damage yourself, so you cannot use ball lightning, unless you put a point in avatar of fire (in which case your ball lightning will do fire damage).

With slave drivers you'll want to do either cold or fire damage yourself to enemies so they get vulnerable to lightning for your spectres to deal increased damage (and your other minions as they'll be buffed by wrath).

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gaucetank12345 wrote:

Would running EE be better DPS than switching to avatar of fire?
If not switching is better, what spell would you suggest to replace ball lightning?

Thanks for your patience I'm a big noobie

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Gorkk wrote:

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gaucetank12345 wrote:

Would running EE be better DPS than switching to avatar of fire?
If not switching is better, what spell would you suggest to replace ball lightning?

Thanks for your patience I'm a big noobie

Running EE is a big DPS boost if used correctly as it applies -50% resist to the enemies. The way it works is that whenever you (not your summons) hit the enemies with elemental damage, they gain +25% resist to any of the elements they have been hit with, and -50% to any of the elements they have not been hit with.

If your spectres deal lightning damage (as well as your other minions due to wrath + generosity - generosity so it does not affect you so you don't do lightning damage, and so it increases the effect of wrath), you then want to hit yourself with some means either with cold or fire damage.

One option is to not use ball lightning and instead use something else like fireball or frostbolt (no idea what would be best); another is to make sure you don't ever do lightning damage by taking Avatar of Fire: this notable converts 50% of all your damage to fire damage, and prevents you from doing any non fire damage.

With the main build, we use frost sentinels (cold damage) and buff our minions with hatred (cold damage), so ball lightning is perfect to apply EE (assuming no other elemental damage due to gear, monsters will have +25% lightning resist and -50% cold and fire resists); other options are arc, or self cast storm brand for example.

You can obviously also not running EE, but then ball lightning will then only be useful to generate lots of hits in order to proc frenzy charges for your minions (with Victario's Charity); you will lose however a substantial DPS boost (and will most likely be negatively affected by “you have Elemental Equilibrium” map mods).

Note that with this build you can wait quite late to skill up EE; I personally skilled it up around 85 or so in red maps when I got around to fixing my gear to not deal anything other than lightning damage (I was using SRS as well at the time, and they deal 50% fire). At the time I only had the +2 minion helm I still got now (no other minion buffs) and a simple 4L with my spectres and phantasms, as well as a much simpler claw (at the time only faster attacks), and everything was quite smooth, besides lacking damage on some big blight encounters.

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FutureFear wrote:

@ Everyone


I'v seen previously this week some people discuss the "Hungry loop" viabilty and options here, just to lazy to find it again... So sorry if this is already said, but it seems to be as a viable DPS boost and can't be repeated to much.

Hnugry loop consumes up to 4 support gems, so it's a potential 5 link bonus for a fairly cheap price of 1C (for now).

I'v been playing around in POB, and found that a carrion golem would benefit us most DPS wise.

4 supports:
- minion damage (obviously)
- melee physical damage (carrion golem is melee after all)
- Ruthless (for all increase in melee, and more dps as feeding frenzy)
- hypothermia ( since we scale physcial to cold with gloves and have EE it gives the most DPS out of all options for the carrion golem)

It should be viable aprox 500K-800K more DPS in total, considering it also give all our other minions a damage boost and has quite good dps itself with the above supports (~135K)

I'll be setting my hungry loop up (in game) in the comming days, since you have to level gems from atleast 19 to 20 and do it 4 times it will take a while.

@Hercanic

Probably more viable as my chaos dmg variant I guess? :p

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FutureFear wrote:

@ Everyone


I'v seen previously this week some people discuss the "Hungry loop" viabilty and options here, just to lazy to find it again... So sorry if this is already said, but it seems to be as a viable DPS boost and can't be repeated to much.

Hnugry loop consumes up to 4 support gems, so it's a potential 5 link bonus for a fairly cheap price of 1C (for now).

I'v been playing around in POB, and found that a carrion golem would benefit us most DPS wise.

4 supports:
- minion damage (obviously)
- melee physical damage (carrion golem is melee after all)
- Ruthless (for all increase in melee, and more dps as feeding frenzy)
- hypothermia ( since we scale physcial to cold with gloves and have EE it gives the most DPS out of all options for the carrion golem)

It should be viable aprox 500K-800K more DPS in total, considering it also give all our other minions a damage boost and has quite good dps itself with the above supports (~135K)

I'll be setting my hungry loop up (in game) in the comming days, since you have to level gems from atleast 19 to 20 and do it 4 times it will take a while.

@Hercanic

Probably more viable as my chaos dmg variant I guess? :p

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banthom wrote:

So I just did Shaper for the first time ever, and while I died a few times to mechanics I feel that the minions did fairly well. I do feel like I am leaving some damage on the table. Can you look at my gear/char and suggest some possible upgrades? Thank you.

I have a 47EX budget for upgrades.