{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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RegulusNorth wrote:
Interesting setup. I dropped Siegebreaker after running a few dozen maps with it because it felt like dead weight. The ground effect wasn't helpful enough to warrant an otherwise-weak belt, I felt.

Are you running an Unending Hunger? I feel like that made all the difference in Fire-raisers surpassing Solar Guards, for me. The Solar Guard laser really holds them back.

I'd like to try the Triad Grip variant, but I bought a Grip of the Council a few days ago and it'd be a waste of exalt to consider replacing it right now. It certainly seems interesting.

I just managed to get my hands on a Glorious Vanity as well as an ES on hit Watcher's Eye... the Glorious Vanity forced me to spec out of the hybrid wheel to the right of our starting zone, so I had to move those points somewhere else as a compromise. Corrupted Soul is nice, but honestly... I don't know if I like it when I have ES on hit from the Watcher's Eye. It feels like it's making me more squishy, not less. Maybe I skipped over something and we're not supposed to run both.

Fortress Covenant is still a pretty heavy lifter for my damage. Right now I'm worried less about improving the already insane clearspeed of this build and worried more about improving my survivability. Popping VSS has a tendency to get me killed.



I can understand the siegebreaker part, caustic ground won't kill on itself but all the extra combined damage output could result in a faster clear speed overall. but it's certainly not the best belt DPS wise, the taunt on the other hand is quite nice, it means I can focus on other stats on ghastly eye jewels...

And yes i'm using unending hunger, bought one with my first exalted... I'v played this for 3 leagues now and it does make some difference, with or without. I could try again with fire-raiser and my current setup, both are fire.

I also have grip of the council somewhere, it's nice for the cold damage, and most effective with frost sentinals ofcourse, sadly triad grips only convert physical and most "good" spectres use elemental/spell damage so not usefull there. -> that's why i want a Vis Mortis for spectres.

I think that the glorious Vanaity trade with the "hybrid wheel" was your downfall for getting the most out of our build. I took the liberty to check your character and tree to see what your glorious vanaity would give but it doesn't seem to do anything usefull?

I don't have a watcher's eye (yet) I also feel I don't actually need one with bone armour as "extra potion". Still In the current setup (without Glorious Vanity) it can only add to the survivability of the build I guess.

I didn't test fortress covenant yet but I'm pritty sure that minions take 20% extra damage is also killing you because we share our minion damage with ourselves thanks to spiritual aid. Yes this does count for ALL minion damage & reductions!
Note that it also says ALL notable passives in radius converted -> more notables = more " extra damage taken" 20-40-60...seems like a suicide jewel for our build.

Last edited by FutureFear on Sep 13, 2019, 8:37:05 AM
Is it worth it investing in a 4 white sockets Triad Grip? How much damage would I gain?
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Levirael wrote:
Is it worth it investing in a 4 white sockets Triad Grip? How much damage would I gain?


You don't gain any damage it only converts and gives a chance to freeze,ignite & shock.

4 sockets of either red,green,blue or white sockets = 100% conversion to their respective elements as shown on the gloves. Because of our spread thin number of sockets only white seems a viable option to convert to chaos damage, so we socket any gems in it. You could drop spirit offering (not recommended) and go for any other element but you don't gain any damage doing so and lose part of your defense.

I'm still testing my chaos damage variation, just defeated the elder (yellow tier) with ease & without dying. As if it's a walk in the park!
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FutureFear wrote:
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Levirael wrote:
Is it worth it investing in a 4 white sockets Triad Grip? How much damage would I gain?


You don't gain any damage it only converts and gives a chance to freeze,ignite & shock.

4 sockets of either red,green,blue or white sockets = 100% conversion to their respective elements as shown on the gloves. Because of our spread thin number of sockets only white seems a viable option to convert to chaos damage, so we socket any gems in it. You could drop spirit offering (not recommended) and go for any other element but you don't gain any damage doing so and lose part of your defense.

I'm still testing my chaos damage variation, just defeated the elder (yellow tier) with ease & without dying. As if it's a walk in the park!



While it wouldn't give us more damage, enemies don't really have any chaos resistance, so we would do more damage. I'm just not sure if the damage difference is high enough to justify the cost (4ex).
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nathlar wrote:
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goobergeorge wrote:
Anyone know why my spirit offering and desecrate isn't triggering when cast on damage taken is linked?


They are in the wrong order to work , desecrate needs to be between cwdt and offering


Wrong, it does not matter where CWDT is located.
@Hercanic
Hi! What's your suggestions on Faster Projectiles green gem replacement for Raise Spectre on Blighted maps? As we can see, there are tons of monster with insanely high total HP pool there, so replacing Faster Projectiles with something wich gives us more area or direct damage seems reasonable.

PS: buff towers with 2 rings for them are OP for summoners. Pairing them with summoner towers might be nice, but more summons means more client crashes for us :( My hopes are on next week's patch.
@Naadirius:

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Naadirius wrote:



hope it works^^


You should rework your boots: With your current setup CWDT triggers first Spirit Offering and the Desecrate. So in the worst case the Spirit Offering tries to eat corpses which are not existing and then the Desecrate creates a fresh batch. You want it the other way around.

When CWDT triggers in 4-links it activates linked gems sequentially following this pattern:

1 ---> 2
++++++!
++++++V
4 <--- 3

In this chain you want Desecrate before Spirit offering.
And dont worry about the position of CWDT; it does not matter where it is.

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Levirael wrote:
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FutureFear wrote:
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Levirael wrote:
Is it worth it investing in a 4 white sockets Triad Grip? How much damage would I gain?


You don't gain any damage it only converts and gives a chance to freeze,ignite & shock.

4 sockets of either red,green,blue or white sockets = 100% conversion to their respective elements as shown on the gloves. Because of our spread thin number of sockets only white seems a viable option to convert to chaos damage, so we socket any gems in it. You could drop spirit offering (not recommended) and go for any other element but you don't gain any damage doing so and lose part of your defense.

I'm still testing my chaos damage variation, just defeated the elder (yellow tier) with ease & without dying. As if it's a walk in the park!



While it wouldn't give us more damage, enemies don't really have any chaos resistance, so we would do more damage. I'm just not sure if the damage difference is high enough to justify the cost (4ex).


True most monster are weak for chaos & poison damage exception of some bosses, also the reason why i'm actually testing it's viability -> despair curse is quite handy too.

sure it's an investment and wouldn't be worthile if you don't commit all the way, i'm currently working towards my Vis Mortis 6 linked aprox 4 ex too, bought 4 linked white socket triad grip for 3 ex (lucky me)

Since farming maps and blighted maps is quite easy, somehow I manange to not get massive laag in blighted maps with my solar gaurds and only using flame towers.
Had 5 raw exalted drops so far, a kaom's, some lucky rolls on rare gear and a few uniques that sell for several chaos. I guess I really got lucky so far.

Like I'v mentioned in my previous post, I can't calculate my actual DPS in POB because of some stats not applying to it, still needs te be updated I guess.

All I can tell is my experience in game up until now, i hope to get shaper & uber elder done this weekend. I'll post my findings & or video's afterwards.

I just realize that I haven't anointed my rings yet and end up putting Flamethrower Damage and Minion Damage on it. I don't have any oils above Violet.

What is everybody else using?
Hey guys,
can someone give me a quick tipp how to craft the ES -6 link?

vaal Regalia 6 link ilvl84 and then with fossils? Which fossils would you combine?

Appreciate your support.

PS. Awesome awesome guide!

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