{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

I've experimented with Solar Guards, Frost Sentinels, and Fire-raisers in T15 with this build and I can honestly say I prefer Fire-raisers over the other two, hands down.

I'm working with a 6l now, and I think perhaps if I didn't have Unending Hunger, Frost Sentinels would be more competitive, but as my gear is right now they can't hold a candle to the clear speed of Fire-raisers.

I got an ex lieing around and wonder if the unending hunger gem is worth an entire ex? It's a lot of currency for a casual player like me :P

What about the new wands?, I manage to craft one with 101% minion damage:

It will be better than a claw with maim?

-Since I'm not using the cyclone settup, just ball lightning and just for blight maps.
-And it's worth to use 1 spectre to raise the bud that gives frenzy charges? cuz I barely hit enemies and Victario's never pop.

I'm doing a hybrid ES build, and was wondering if it's better take passives on "Written in blood" and craft "Melding" or craft "Written" and don't take "Melding"


And just for the curious abut my gear:


Any suggestion is appreciated :D

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IzDiego wrote:

What about the new wands?, I manage to craft one with 101% minion damage:

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I'm waiting for the minion cast speed craft.

It will be better than a claw with maim?

-Since I'm not using the cyclone settup, just ball lightning and just for blight maps.
-And it's worth to use 1 spectre to raise the bud that gives frenzy charges? cuz I barely hit enemies and Victario's never pop.

I'm doing a hybrid ES build, and was wondering if it's better take passives on "Written in blood" and craft "Melding" or craft "Written" and don't take "Melding"

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Currently using melding craft

And just for the curious abut my gear:

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-lvl 88 with 4926 HP and 3306 ES (Up to 4548 with spirit offering)
-I'm going phase run and I feel it more fun for clear tons of maps
-And yes, I change ball lightnig to convotacion just for maping

Any suggestion is appreciated :D

I think your CWDT is not optimized, i think the order has to be CWDT, Desecrate and Spirit Offering. In your case you cast spirit offerint before desecrate, before the spawn of corpses.

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omer74 wrote:

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IzDiego wrote:

What about the new wands?, I manage to craft one with 101% minion damage:

Spoiler

I'm waiting for the minion cast speed craft.

It will be better than a claw with maim?

-Since I'm not using the cyclone settup, just ball lightning and just for blight maps.
-And it's worth to use 1 spectre to raise the bud that gives frenzy charges? cuz I barely hit enemies and Victario's never pop.

I'm doing a hybrid ES build, and was wondering if it's better take passives on "Written in blood" and craft "Melding" or craft "Written" and don't take "Melding"

Spoiler

Currently using melding craft

And just for the curious abut my gear:

Spoiler

-lvl 88 with 4926 HP and 3306 ES (Up to 4548 with spirit offering)
-I'm going phase run and I feel it more fun for clear tons of maps
-And yes, I change ball lightnig to convotacion just for maping

Any suggestion is appreciated :D

I think your CWDT is not optimized, i think the order has to be CWDT, Desecrate and Spirit Offering. In your case you cast spirit offerint before desecrate, before the spawn of corpses.

Sorry to interrupt, this is my CWDT setup, it's ok like this?

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omer74 wrote:

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IzDiego wrote:

What about the new wands?, I manage to craft one with 101% minion damage:

Spoiler

I'm waiting for the minion cast speed craft.

It will be better than a claw with maim?

-Since I'm not using the cyclone settup, just ball lightning and just for blight maps.
-And it's worth to use 1 spectre to raise the bud that gives frenzy charges? cuz I barely hit enemies and Victario's never pop.

I'm doing a hybrid ES build, and was wondering if it's better take passives on "Written in blood" and craft "Melding" or craft "Written" and don't take "Melding"

Spoiler

Currently using melding craft

And just for the curious abut my gear:

Spoiler

-lvl 88 with 4926 HP and 3306 ES (Up to 4548 with spirit offering)
-I'm going phase run and I feel it more fun for clear tons of maps
-And yes, I change ball lightnig to convotacion just for maping

Any suggestion is appreciated :D

I think your CWDT is not optimized, i think the order has to be CWDT, Desecrate and Spirit Offering. In your case you cast spirit offerint before desecrate, before the spawn of corpses.

Nope, works that way. It's irrelevant where the CWDT gem is. Important is Desecrate before Spirit Offering.

Going by this order: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_socket#Order
Desecrate just needs to be before Spirit Offering.

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GutiElMago wrote:

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omer74 wrote:

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IzDiego wrote:

What about the new wands?, I manage to craft one with 101% minion damage:

Spoiler

I'm waiting for the minion cast speed craft.

It will be better than a claw with maim?

-Since I'm not using the cyclone settup, just ball lightning and just for blight maps.
-And it's worth to use 1 spectre to raise the bud that gives frenzy charges? cuz I barely hit enemies and Victario's never pop.

I'm doing a hybrid ES build, and was wondering if it's better take passives on "Written in blood" and craft "Melding" or craft "Written" and don't take "Melding"

Spoiler

Currently using melding craft

And just for the curious abut my gear:

Spoiler

-lvl 88 with 4926 HP and 3306 ES (Up to 4548 with spirit offering)
-I'm going phase run and I feel it more fun for clear tons of maps
-And yes, I change ball lightnig to convotacion just for maping

Any suggestion is appreciated :D

I think your CWDT is not optimized, i think the order has to be CWDT, Desecrate and Spirit Offering. In your case you cast spirit offerint before desecrate, before the spawn of corpses.

Sorry to interrupt, this is my CWDT setup, it's ok like this?

Same for you. This works. First proc will cast Warlord's Mark, second proc will cast Desecrate and third proc will cast Spirit Offering.

Is it a good idea to anoint Death Attunement for +1 Spectre to increase damage?

Great guide overall, a bit messy perhaps due to recent changes and lots of new ideas but still I learned a lot about summoner archtype just by reading this topic. Keep up the good work hercanic

I have a few questions/comments aswell. The triad grip full elemental conversion sounds like a great idea (especially with how expensive grip of the council currently is) but I agree that instead of 4 green sockets which contribute almost nothing to the build, we could use 4 blue and go full lightning with wrath, slave drivers etc. There would be damage loss from bonechill/hatred scaling yes, but wouldn't the extra minions and supports that we fit provide more overall damage?

Also if the 4 blue setup for triad works, what would be the ideal setup to trigger EE and frenzy charges? GMP with molten shell/ice spear or maybe still ball lightning with avatar of fire?



While leveling up, I've found that carrion golems are just plain amazing with feeding frenzy, neither spectres nor zombies can keep up with their clear/aoe capacity so I specced into extra golem and wasn't disappointed with the results. Do they get worse in maps/endgame (or maybe the other minions get way better)? Because right now I believe they deserve a setup of their own, rather than a single link meat shield / buffbot.



What is the consensus on melee spectres? I've played around with Colossal bonestalkers (to have better synergy with carrion golems physical buff) and they weren't bad with feeding frenzy but they weren't that good either. Is there any reason to use a melee spectre instead of a ranged elemental one?

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FrostyMochi wrote:

Is it a good idea to anoint Death Attunement for +1 Spectre to increase damage?

Why anoint a passive we already use in our build? As far as I remember you can't allocate the same node twice, not even with anointing.

My opinion for the "best" passives to choose from to anoint are:

- Enduring Bond (most minion damage + duration)
- Aligned spirit ( mana + minion damage)
- Whispers of doom (extra curse)
- Overcharged (power, endurance & frenzy charges gained)
- Frenetic, fervour or savagery ( + 1 max frenzy charge)
- any extra energy shield, life or combo node with both


Note: I'v actually changed my tree and traded life for getting enduring bond with passive points and gaining duration for skelletons (43.20 sec uptime).
I then anointed aligned spirit, because it's cheap and perhaps change it later to a combo life/ES node to compensate.

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omer74 wrote:

It's better to have +1 gem or maim on claw ?
Before +1 and maim.

Support gems are generally stronger.