Hate this fuckin Uberlab

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Lets break it down slowly for you to understand

Alright, I see where this is going but I'll play along anyway...

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Your argument that the lab is not broken is because we have lab mechanics in maps.

Never said that. I actually haven't even made an argument yet, I asked you to define broken and you went off on a tangent about perandus and other temp league mechanics.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

I am asking you since we have perandus mechanics in maps does this mean perandus is not broken too?

3 options

1. You agree that perandus was broken which makes your lab things in maps argument invalid.
2. You agree that perandus was not broken which makes your whole argument hilarious.
3. You dodge like you are doing now because you understand that both 1. and 2. don't serve your purpose.

Not even worth responding to because it has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

Can't even define broken huh? Alright, thanks for trying.

So you said it then Perandus was not broken because it is in fact in the core game. Geez, could have saved me some time by not beating around the bush this much.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

So you said it then Perandus was not broken because it is in fact in the core game. Geez, could have saved me some time by not beating around the bush this much.

You replied before I finished editing, re-read the second part of my last post.

Thats completely fine.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Thats completely fine.

Yep, it's completely fine for you to continue trolling. Go on then. Don't stop now. I wouldn't have bothered if I knew you were going to peter out so quickly. :)

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Fruz wrote:

Can't do that in normal, likely not in cruel to begin with.
And won't completely outregen the sawblades, etc ... ( not before reaching a really advanced stage of the game, and only on very aprticular setups. Which is fine, there need to be all kind of characters in this game ).

In order to not outregen he must walk all the way with the sawblade which needs and extra effort. He must use extra effort to take all the trap damage.

By saying taking all the damage from traps i didnt mean that. I meant by walking like left licking a location in empty road. Uber lab traps cant do anything to Level 80+ 6k EHP character with a lot of %regen(and this character is not counted as advanced stage 6k ehp and %regen are build goal already) unless you must take an extra effort for dying to traps. He can stay forever in spikes.

If there were traps in the areas of certain end game goals may be I could say that Uber Labs could help a player. But traps are very specific and unique challenge. And easily bypassable with certain builds.

Dodging shaper's beam or slam attack is completely different and can not be related with dodging traps.

I did my first uber lab attempt a few days ago and succeeded. That being said, I doubt I will do it again.

The rewards were taken from me, because I had a DC after Izaro died. Luckily it triggered the ascendancy, else I would have lost this as well. And this is a core problem for me. Since moving DX11, POE is as stable as a dogs tale in the wind.

If I invest into uber and crash, everything will be gone.

It´s not hard to do, if a casual like me can do it, everyone can. But the nuisance of dealing with a crash or dc is always present, as there are no waypoints.

If uber lab had six portals, it would be a lot better.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Some random schmuck on the internet.

Self-criticism is always appreciated.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Please do tell why not a single lab mechanic was implemented to the core game with the next updates.

This is not true. All lab mechanics were implemented in the core game - in labyrinth.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

GGG knows their traps are incredibly broken and unusable in the normal game

This is not true. Don't make fiction "facts" when you have nothing else to say.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

I even corrected your lameass response but in typical lab lover fashion you back off and have no proper arguments. As usual. Carry on with your delusions.

So you just insulting people when you have no arguments. Typical...

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Johny_Snow wrote:

I see random spirits, breches, essences, and all that other crap but I never seen random traps why?

You saw Labyrinth trials in maps. It is enough for you to stop lying about lab not being added to "core" game?

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Your argument that the lab is not broken is because we have lab mechanics in maps.

He never stated this.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Perandus was not broken because it is in fact in the core game.

Perandus was never added to the core game. It is only available as Zana mod.

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Can you please stop lying about everything you are mentioning and insulting everyone who has arguments against your point?

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pphnx wrote:

Dodging shaper's beam or slam attack is completely different and can not be related with dodging traps.

It literally can, to a certain extent.
My point was that most content can be done without paying much attention to the game (not all boss fights thanks Dominus), and that lab changes that a bit in most cases.
There is one kind of character (and not only regen, it needs non armour phys mitigation to never be put in danger ever from traps) that excels at the lab, and it's fine. Build diversity allows it, it's perfectly fine imho.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

So according to your expert opinion perandus chests and content in general are not broken because we have remnants of them in ivory temple for example. Do you agree with what I am saying?

Perandus chest have never ever been brought back through Zana, and have never ever been part of non voided former flashback leagues ....
or they were.
Was perandus broken ?
No, it wasn't obviously, but you seem to be using that word without knowing its meaning at all to be honest.

Perandus was too rewarding, which is ... completely irrelated to the topic here.

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Ygidua wrote:

I did my first uber lab attempt a few days ago and succeeded. That being said, I doubt I will do it again.

The rewards were taken from me, because I had a DC after Izaro died. Luckily it triggered the ascendancy, else I would have lost this as well. And this is a core problem for me. Since moving DX11, POE is as stable as a dogs tale in the wind.

If I invest into uber and crash, everything will be gone.

It´s not hard to do, if a casual like me can do it, everyone can. But the nuisance of dealing with a crash or dc is always present, as there are no waypoints.

If uber lab had six portals, it would be a lot better.

That sucks :(.
Having the last instance saved after entering after Izaro would be something that I really would not be against (one prophecy needs to be considered there though), but I think that it's rare enough so that GGG does not need to invest time into doing something about that ...
Lab is "weak" against network problems like this, but so are breaches/breach domains/incursions/some master missions/delves, etc ...

And I think that GGG is fine with that, having the game connection problems-proof would probably require too much investment from GGG, as "sad" as it might sound.

Good Lord you guys, it's like virtually sitting in a court room with these posts. Are you a bunch of lawyers all of a sudden?

I, too, was once of the Uber Lab is the worst and makes me want to quit.

To this day I still do not look forward to running it on my characters, and occasionally know that I have a character that either cannot, or will have a very hard time with, Uber Izaro.

However, long experience has taught me that the lab in general is not as bad as it first appears, that the layouts are not as varied as you think unless you are looking to "full key" it, and Uber Lab has a ridiculously small final arena but the key is to Not Panic! and you should be fine.

Again, you may have a character that just cannot do Uber Lab, it happens. But I have found that with power creep the builds that have a hard time with Uber Lab are definitely dwindling.

TL;DR - don't give up, keep trying. It's not as hard as it first seems.

P.S. Crashing in any Lab is the worst and there is no good response to this.