Hate this fuckin Uberlab

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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Phaeded wrote:

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Dude, if people would just agree to disagree here, it would be a much better place lol.
Much more civil.


@TheLockedGuy :
I'm just going to quote yourself, about thinks that you should really apply to yourself first, just please ... think about it :

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

Stop assuming anything for one thing.

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

I suggest you go re-read everything in this thread

PS : I'm not the one breaking the code of conduct because of my obnoxious behaviour here.
And this includes "name calling", or "you [...] you [...] you [...]"
The only reason why you've not been insulting everybody else is because others do share to some extent your hatred of the lab.


But just out of curiosity ... you like traps ?
Just to make something clearer regarding the last "exchanges" :))

Why should I give you anything? The guy who messages me to try and prove me wrong all the fucking time? Calling people 2 years old isn't censored? But calling someone a dick is. I don't see a difference. Just because you skirt by the rules. Doesn't make your behavior any better.

I haven't insulted anyone who didn't insult someone else first. And that's a fact. FYI everyone is somewhat hypercritical. It's called being human. Some more than others. Fruz you are the king of contradicting yourself.

I didn't say anything about traps. Because I don't care to much. I don't like them. I don't hate them. If they go away good. If they stay oh fucking well. And yet you still haven't given any feedback to this entire thread. But hell I didn't put words in your mouth. And I still doubt you would ever agree do disagree. Ever!!!

Personally, I have given plenty of feedback to this thread, but I keep getting told to shut up.

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You mean about how you believe the game is doomed since Tencent bought GGG ? that part, you sure did lol.


@TheLockedGuy :

I haven't "tried" to prove you wrong.


I told somebody else (who wasn't you), that if we would assume he was 2 years old, then some things would make more sense, which is pretty different from "You're 2 years old".
I'm just explaining you because I think that you can understand. I don't know if you read it wrong or just tried to twist my words, it does not matter much actually.

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

I haven't insulted anyone who didn't insult someone else first

- This is quite a childish thing to say (imho).
- The thread that I linked earlier has clear example of it, I don't wish to anybody to go through it though, it's not worth it.


Regarding giving feedback in this thread, of course I did, plus what Phaeded said : this is a feedback forum.

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Fruz wrote:

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You mean about how you believe the game is doomed since Tencent bought GGG ? that part, you sure did lol.


@TheLockedGuy :

I haven't "tried" to prove you wrong.


I told somebody else (who wasn't you), that if we would assume he was 2 years old, then some things would make more sense, which is pretty different from "You're 2 years old".
I'm just explaining you because I think that you can understand. I don't know if you read it wrong or just tried to twist my words, it does not matter much actually.

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

I haven't insulted anyone who didn't insult someone else first

- This is quite a childish thing to say (imho).
- The thread that I linked earlier has clear example of it, I don't wish to anybody to go through it though, it's not worth it.


Regarding giving feedback in this thread, of course I did, plus what Phaeded said : this is a feedback forum.

OMG now your trying to play it cool. LOL the irony.

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Fruz wrote:

I guess if you behave like a 2 years old kid that wants to complain about literally everything disliked...my bad, "crying like a little girl" was a bit sexist, changed to "crying like a little kid"

Literally. You skirt by the rules. While getting in as many jabs as you can. You do it everywhere. I don't care for that shit. I am just more direct.

And FYI Fruz you have posted on every single one of my threads. And have said similar things for years. Want me to prove it? I can quote places where you call people basically stupid without using the word. Just because it isn't censored doesn't make it any better. It is quite childish of you to even suggest you are more mature than anyone. The difference between us. Is I will strait up call you out on it. While you will hint at it, and beat around it like snake. Your not any better at all.

Edit: Quote from frez from my inbox.

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Fruz wrote:

Just a reminder that you were blantanly wrong about the whole thing you were ranting about, which makes your toxic behaviour on this thread look even worse

So again why send me messages like this. Don't have the balls to say it in public. And then lie about you not trying to prove me wrong?

If traps are testing a player,

Then why whould I have to complete labs with all my characters?

If they are testing the build,

Then why dont I have to complete lab trials in Quest aresas like crypt, crematorium or lab trials in maps?

The whole system is broken.

Ability to dodge traps serves NOTHING. Only thing that praparing you to maps is Kitava. You can do it over and over again it's not gated behind currency or time wasting areas.

Labs are sources of unhappines for most of the players.

Once they complete it they never go aspirants plaza again.

Where's the fun in searching the last lab trial in 820?

@TheLockedGuy :
You've just been exciting yourself over nothing, you've been doing that since you got here.

You are not more "direct", you are .... something else haha.

if I have posted on every single one of your thread (not impossible I guess), then have they all been about .... bitching about the same kind of thing then ?
That's pretty sad lol.


That quote from your inbox is absolutely true, and clear.
If you don't like being called out, don't behave like that.

You're the only one responsible for that.

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pphnx wrote:

Then why dont I have to complete lab trials in Quest aresas like crypt, crematorium or lab trials in maps?

People people cried about it, and to GGG it must not have been a big deal I guess.
Now it just works like the Atlas, and the masters, or even the delve chart and upgrades now.

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pphnx wrote:

Ability to dodge traps serves NOTHING. Only thing that praparing you to maps is Kitava. You can do it over and over again it's not gated behind currency or time wasting areas.

And you can kill it by suiciding with "Cast on death" + damage spell until it dies if you want too.

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pphnx wrote:

Labs are sources of unhappines for most of the players.

Once they complete it they never go aspirants plaza again.

That's ok, I really like it and I never go back in there once I get my points unless I'm doing a carry. :P

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pphnx wrote:

If traps are testing a player,

Traps are testing everyone, even the mobs. You know the trap temple boss in incursion league that was close to traps? I always found him dead in my temple. He was tested by the traps and was found unworthy of the mario gameplay they provide. :D

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Fruz wrote:

A good half of what you said is irrelevant to what you quoted.
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Lab is pretty much fine now, deal with it.

Ya some real feedback there...

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Fruz wrote:

Ok, first of all, you have no idea about that, no data, nothing.

And you do?

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Fruz wrote:

Oh, I'm "dealing with it", the lab has been there since ascendancy, and has not changed for a while :).
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And I will keep enjoying it, and I have no doubt that you will keep bitching about it while I will be having fun it in.

Cheers.

Ya that was some great feedback. Hmmm guess I'm missing something?

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Fruz wrote:

Oh yes it does, it shows player that are fine with using their brains and can overcome what the game puts in front of them, without needing to resort to other people's build and Fotm type characters (@arc/totems traps, impulsa, etc ... ).

Oh your not suggesting that person isn't stupid at all.

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Fruz wrote:

I can't do much more than /facepalm at this point I think ... honestly.

Oh well, that was 'fun'.
Keep hating and bitching if you want, I'll keep having fun.

Cheers

So why are you still here than. Oh I see it's fun for you to troll. Right?

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Fruz wrote:

Oh, hey !

It's not about jumping on anybody who does not like lab, not everyone can enjoy 100% of the content for sure.

Literally followed by your next statement.

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Fruz wrote:

poor you.

You want a cookie ?
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I guess if you behave like a 2 years old kid that wants to complain about literally everything disliked, thinking that by doing this everything will change .... then it does kind of make sense maybe.
But else I hardly see how people could be seriously bitching about this. The time you took to come here and write that post could have been used to actually go through the whole thing, just lol.

Yes, the time spent doing the content DOES matter here.

edit :
my bad, "crying like a little girl" was a bit sexist, changed to "crying like a little kid"

:O... Sorry I thought you weren't jumping on anyone.

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Fruz wrote:

And yeah, in a way, I'm complaining because some people are clearly poluting these forums, we're way past actual useful feedback there, plus the lab-hating circle jerk has been disrespectful to GGG quite a lot, and I don't like it ( not that I am expecting a miracle about it, some people will just be toxic ).
And if you have not seen me providing actualy feedback, it's probably because you have been absolutely blind to anything else but your own [self-censored] rant about the lab ? lol

Ok so your first comment to me is about my own self-censored rant when you didn't even read my first comment. OK your winning on all regards here.

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Fruz wrote:

Maybe I should just have kept ignoring you lol, I'll check that run later when I can.

And yeah, I messaged you because I wanted you to be sure that you didn't miss how wrong you were even though you kept insulting everybody else in this thread...
I'm still not sure if you got it though, honestly.

It was quite priceless I have to say haha.

Right so your messaging to prove me wrong... And you don't get that I don't care what you think.

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Fruz wrote:

And I wanted to see if you would actually apologize to everybody you insulted in there (for the sole reason that you were convinced of things about which you were blatantly wrong) pretty much.

(you didn't).

And I really can't be bothered to "give" you anything lulz (especially since it's pretty much everywhere ), I don't owe you anything, neither have I any esteem for you or anything obviously.

Spoiler

This one is never going to get odd haha

Uhh ok. So you want me to apologize now. And you can't be bothered to give anything? I am still waiting for some real feedback.

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Fruz wrote:

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TheLockedGuy wrote:

Yes it is. But he isn't even doing that. He is just ranting about people who disagree with him the majority of the time

If you can't read maybe ... or more likely, if you

Spoiler

This one is never going to get odd haha

Right your the perfect model citizen. I guess I am blind...

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Fruz wrote:

Sometimes irony tastes soooo sweat haha.

After checking the video, you made a somewhat tanky guardian and had no real problems with traps at this point, that's fair enough.
How ironic that you go through an extra trap gauntlets to get a completely optional trove, yet you spend so much time here whining about how traps are boring and annoying and you don't want to go through them lol.
You didn't bother trying to deal with Izzy's mechanics at all and you almost died facetanking it, was it actually your first try ?

It's just the behaviour that I mentioned earlier in this thread I guess heh (if you didn't die in previous runs).

So i'm blind still? I never said any of the shit you claim here. And I am still waiting for some real feedback. And than you go on to ask me 3 more times about my opinion of traps after I told you I didn't say shit. Why? What the hell are you trying to proove. Your just looking to say your wrong about X. So your wrong about everything again. Just like you did in the last thread. No being wrong about one or two or even a prediction doesn't make me wrong about everything.

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Fruz wrote:

So ... you don't dislike traps, but you hate the lab ?

And I'm starting to get used to your behaviour, can't understand fully what's going on, so "go away !! go away !!"
Not surprised.

"proving" ? Like you proved everything in that other thread haha ?
riiiiiight.

anyway, whatever dude.

So what exactly is my behavior that you are used too. You making up shit that about me while you try and prove who is the worse person here? And what's funny is you think you proved something on the other thread. I am starting to think you are delusional.

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Fruz wrote:

But just out of curiosity ... you like traps ?
Just to make something clearer regarding the last "exchanges" :))

Ya sure it's not so you can try, and prove something. I'm still waiting for some real feedback.

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Fruz wrote:

- This is quite a childish thing to say (imho).
- The thread that I linked earlier has clear example of it, I don't wish to anybody to go through it though, it's not worth it.

Regarding giving feedback in this thread, of course I did, plus what Phaeded said : this is a feedback forum.

Who's twisting who's words? You even tried putting words strait into my mouth. One second you say your not trying to prove me wrong. The next your saying you already proved me wrong. Than to say that I'm childish. Again I waiting for some real feedback.

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Fruz wrote:

That quote from your inbox is absolutely true, and clear.
If you don't like being called out, don't behave like that.

You're the only one responsible for that.

I'm responsible for you messaging me? When we know we hate each other. And after I respond don't message me. We aren't going to be friends. You message me 4 more times. Oh I'm responsible for your ego. You haven't proven me wrong. I said I was making a predictions. Predictions can be wrong. Where have you proven me wrong on anything I stated as fact?

And I am still waiting on you to give us real feedback.

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Fruz wrote:

And you can kill it by suiciding with "Cast on death" + damage spell until it dies if you want too.

Oh finally some feedback. Oh wait, ya, no. I guess I'll have to wait forever.

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Pyrokar wrote:

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pphnx wrote:

If traps are testing a player,

Traps are testing everyone, even the mobs. You know the trap temple boss in incursion league that was close to traps? I always found him dead in my temple. He was tested by the traps and was found unworthy of the mario gameplay they provide. :D

The first time I met that guy .... he died offscreen to traps.
That was quite hilarious I have to say.
I don't usually /facepalm mobs but ...




Concerning feedback, open your eyes, remove your blinkers, or whatever else, it's really not my problem.

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DivineChampion wrote:

For me lab is only 5% about dealing with traps - 95% is knowledge of Izaro fight and lab layout. Even if someone hate the lab he still have to do it at least once for ascendancy and it is some kind of challenge. I don't see a reason why it is impossible to prepare for this challenge properly.

You are giving it too much credits about lab layout :P


1- Clear a fast zone go right/up all the time (maze solving technique)
2- Hidden room/darkshrine , go down/left all the time (maze solving technique)


Pretty much what you need to know, barely any challenge