Changes to Zana and the Atlas

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xMustard wrote:

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jables wrote:

Fine with strongholds being in yellow maps.. Red maps? no.. It is hard enough to get red maps to drop for just completion, but now we have to complete 4 strongholds on red maps just for randomly spawned strongholds? screw that.

i don't see this as much of an issue. you gotta get the shaper orbs anyway so you'll have those strongholds popping at the same time

I have never gotten the map drops to get the damn shaper orbs for red maps, because red map's drop rate is to damn low.

Right when you thought the Elder Ring was gone... Shaper Ring incoming? )))))

Still not enough contrast for the map connection lines, under the Elder influence.

interesting to have shaper strongholds

but whats the difference between this and the elder circles in 3.1? seems like pretty much the same strat would be to keep a stronghold close to a good map and farm

i don't really understand the point of league-specific items, anymore. there are increasingly more and more ways to attain these, it seems to defeat the purpose of restricting them.

I actually do kinda like the idea, of randomly selecting a map to direct the player to go to. Forcing some variety for the best rewards is a good thing, rather than just setting up an Elder Square to constantly chain the same map.

I'd been toying with a number of proposed ideas (ranging from re-doing Zana's dailies to even a novel way to implement Alva) but this one works as well, I suppose, with less re-working of the mechanics.

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cookie_dinosaur wrote:

interesting to have shaper strongholds

but whats the difference between this and the elder circles in 3.1? seems like pretty much the same strat would be to keep a stronghold close to a good map and farm

Well, there's a distinct difference in that SHAPER influence doesn't have to be contiguous. So functionally, all it does is prevent ELDER influence from moving past it: it serves as a block.

So if you DID get it close to said "good map," there's no guarantee there will be shaper influence on it. I suppose you COULD use it by drawing your Elder Blob near it: the stronghold will block the blob from expanding past it, and present a good "edge" as you repeatedly flip an adjacent map. The stronghold would prevent the Elder Blob from expanding too much, but it'd be no guarantee against the SHAPER expanding too much.

Awesome news.

another step in the right direction

Reliable currency making.....OOOHHHH BABY

I need a manual to play this game.