not sure how you get to millions of dps… im at about 600k according to pob. either way builds still pretty strong and clears fast. was able to do shaper deathless.
a build that costs roughly 20 ex to make, terrible survivability even with 90% of the recommended items equipped, clear speed sucks ass, boss damage would be decent if you didn't get 1shot by every boss that has any damage mods rolled on a map, 7k es my ass, can't even run a MoM hybrid LOL, 20ex build
10chaos arc trappers shit on this build in comparison
im having some trouble with bossing
anny chance i could have a look at my character and post the mistakes in gear? or what i should upgrade/change ?
Im pretty new to POB this is actualy the first build im using it and somehow your arc has avarage dmg of 430.000 and mine only hes like 93.000
https://pastebin.com/Hip0Zn9C
Also, would realy love to farm out halls of grandmasters but im having problems with the melee guys 1 shotting
Thanks
Yep. That is my problem too. I have almost your dmg and i dont know why its so low
Propably because neither of you bothers to read. :|
From OP:
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Note: I included the CastSpeed/Spell Damage modifier in those builds on the helmets to represent the Attack/Cast Speed via Poet's Pen as well as the average %spelldamage gain from Indigon if applicable. The Indigon values should be roughly halfed in 3.5. I will update those PoBs in the coming weeks and remove this note once done.
im having some trouble with bossing
anny chance i could have a look at my character and post the mistakes in gear? or what i should upgrade/change ?
Im pretty new to POB this is actualy the first build im using it and somehow your arc has avarage dmg of 430.000 and mine only hes like 93.000
https://pastebin.com/Hip0Zn9C
Also, would realy love to farm out halls of grandmasters but im having problems with the melee guys 1 shotting
Thanks
Yep. That is my problem too. I have almost your dmg and i dont know why its so low
yeah ive been sitting here for like 3 hours looking at the pobs and i cant find/get it, but then again im not that good at the game so it might just be me
am i right when i use the exact same gems like in the items shown in the "Gear and Links" section?
That is a bit of a loaded question, it would depend on whether you are completely set up for Indigon or not. If you don't know the answer to that question then no, those gem setups are not correct for you.
Check the first PoB in the PoB section of the OP (near the end of the OP) that should be for the Vertex setup.
okay ty. yes you are right i dont want to use Indigon. i checked the first PoB.
1)Can you please explain who the 6L is working. I understand that the cwdt activates the immortal call+increased duration+ice golem+arcane surge but for what do i need the orb of storm in this 6L? I know orb of storm to create power charges from other builds but i dont understand why we use it here. Or do i just use it when im in a bossfight?
2)Why do we need the 4L frenzy in the boots when we have arc as our main damage spell?
3) There are currently 0 Voidbringer gloves with elemental weakness enchant on hit on poe.trade. Did you enchant them by yourself? What other enchant can you suggest? Maybe one which i can buy on poe.trade :D
4) There is a really low number of rings with Grants Level 20 Aspect of the Spider Skill and warlords mark on poe.trade. I see you dont use spider skill on PoB. How important is the spider skill? Is it worth to buy a ring with only the spider skill and warlords mark but the other stats on the ring are semi good. For example this one:
+23 to maximum Energy Shield
Grants Level 20 Aspect of the Spider Skill
15.3 Life Regenerated per second??
+68 to maximum Mana P2
Curse Enemies with Level 8 Warlord's Mark on Hit
crafted 9% increased Damage
5) AM i right that if i dont use the spider skill on the ring that i shouldnt use fenumu boots. What the best unique boots when you dont use spider skill?
Thank you in advance :)
I will try and quickly answer your questions but you should know that most of this has been covered numerous times, and basically everything you could want to start off by knowing is covered in the OP.
1) For the 6L it is more of a defensive setup than anything, Arcane surge works off of the ability you typically cast in that setup, for me that would be phase run rather than orb of storms. CWDT + Immortal Call + Ice Golem + Increased Duration, and Phase run (in my case) Arcane Surge + Increased Duration. Phase run/ orb of storms is a self cast typically, Arcane surge procs once you cast it about 3x.
2) You need the 4L Frenzy because we want to have Frenzy's attack speed be at the break point of about 3.76 APS. If you go above that without cool down recovery you will start to notice skipping. Frenzy is what we use to trigger our Poet's pens.
3) It is a corruption, not an enchant. You can basically go with anything on there until you manage to get ele weakness. Temporal Chains or Enfeeble would probably be the best other ones to get... +2 to aura gems would also work. You absolutely do not want increased cast/ attack speed.
4) The only must have on your ring is Warlords Mark. Aspect of the Spider is really nice to have, but the cost of getting both, if you're planning to buy it that way, is likely too expensive for most people.
5) If you do not use Aspect of the Spider then you would want to use something like Sin Treks or well crafted rare boots. Again, all of this was covered in the OP.
im having some trouble with bossing
anny chance i could have a look at my character and post the mistakes in gear? or what i should upgrade/change ?
Im pretty new to POB this is actualy the first build im using it and somehow your arc has avarage dmg of 430.000 and mine only hes like 93.000
https://pastebin.com/Hip0Zn9C
Also, would realy love to farm out halls of grandmasters but im having problems with the melee guys 1 shotting
Thanks
Yep. That is my problem too. I have almost your dmg and i dont know why its so low
yeah ive been sitting here for like 3 hours looking at the pobs and i cant find/get it, but then again im not that good at the game so it might just be me
I will try and take a quick look at your PoB but I do not know if I will have time to completely get through it. A large part of the discrepancy that you're likely seeing is the mods that were made to the helm on the PoBs. PoB does not take the increased attack speed of your Frenzy into account on your Arc when calculating... So to get around that, in order to try and display the true damage on the build, the OP put the %increased cast speed on the helm.
im having some trouble with bossing
anny chance i could have a look at my character and post the mistakes in gear? or what i should upgrade/change ?
Im pretty new to POB this is actualy the first build im using it and somehow your arc has avarage dmg of 430.000 and mine only hes like 93.000
https://pastebin.com/Hip0Zn9C
Also, would realy love to farm out halls of grandmasters but im having problems with the melee guys 1 shotting
Thanks
Your APS is abysmal... you need to get it to 3.76(ish) APS... You're currently sitting at 2.28. I think you need to go back to the OP and work through the entire post. I will start you off by pointing out that a lot of our damage comes from Power Charges... and you missed one of the nodes. You also have the wrong Frenzy setup, the setup you kind of started to put together is for an Indigon setup, which you are not running.
Also I could be wrong, but I am not seeing a Ball Lightning Poet's Pen, which is fine but you will start to notice that your damage seems a bit low on bosses when you start hitting higher tiers. Ball Lightning does A LOT of our damage.
Last edited by _Duality_#5615 on Dec 18, 2018, 6:48:37 PM
Note: As of 3.5 Betrayal I will not be overly active anymore in this thread. I maintained this build long enough and am confident I answered all the regular question multiple times. People don't read anyhow and just ask the same crap again and again. (even though they got already answered multiple times and written into the OP - some people just need to be spoonfed.)
I will limit myself to make quick updates on the OP wether the build is still viable in later leagues or not - I will not minmax its gear/stats items further with the upcoming leagues. People can do that themself. If someone wants to write that stuff up in a readable way and integrate/rewrite this guide, they can pm me and I will update this post.
I wrote another BuildGuide in which I will be semi-active:
The players _Duality_, YT_HB and Meothaku all played this build extensivly and know wth they are talking about. They are active and play this build still and are fountains of wisdom - new players should try to get in touch with them or wait for their responses.
Cheers Exiles!
Last edited by Cyrix1337#4098 on Dec 18, 2018, 6:56:43 PM
