[3.3][Guide] Detailed Guide to Sustaining T16 Maps

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AudioBlood727 wrote:

So assuming you chisel your maps and roll them+sextants

You find a t16, 4 chisels, an alchemy, 2 chaos, 3ish sextans, AND 40c worth of stuff on top of that on average every single map? Assuming maps take you maybe 5 minutes to run, you're making like 6ex/hour, and probably the wealthiest player in the game.

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Scarletsword wrote:

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Pangaearocks wrote:

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Scarletsword wrote:

I've been running quite a lot of T16 eldered Lairs this league and I make ~40c profiton average per map. My character doesn't use any IIQ/IIR and the last time I played in a party was during Breach.

Does this include gear and other items you pick up and then sell, or mostly currency drops?

This includes selling low to mid tier items because these items are very consistant. Abyss Sextants for Searching Eye Jewels are very common. Things like a shaped ilvl 85 Opal Ring for 7ex or when I craft a bunch of Stygian Vise Belts that sell for 1-10ex are not included.

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Scarletsword wrote:

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AudioBlood727 wrote:

So assuming you chisel your maps and roll them+sextants

You find a t16, 4 chisels, an alchemy, 2 chaos, 3ish sextans, AND 40c worth of stuff on top of that on average every single map? Assuming maps take you maybe 5 minutes to run, you're making like 6ex/hour, and probably the wealthiest player in the game.

My investment:
4 Chisel, 1 Alchemy, 2-3x Alchemy + Scour for rerolling, about half the maps receive a Vaal Orb, 3 Sacrifice Pieces, 4 Sextants every single time(more like 6-7 because rerolls), 10-15 Prophecy Coins, Zana mods 70% of the time depending on Sextants for up to 4 Chaos + 4 Vaals. There are some additional random investments like strongboxes in certain cases besides Diviner's Boxes but that's about it.

I'm not getting the exact currency back but the total amount spent instead. This simply isn't possible with red Sextants and Sacrifice Pieces and how the game works but I can easily trade for them with the excess currency drops I don't need. Also it takes me longer to roll, prepare and clear maps and trade, sell stuff than 5 minutes. 200c/hour is more realistic.
You can easily make more currency by running slightly lower maps with an MFing build but that's not my playstyle. Also I spend a lot of time just sitting in my own hideout and doing something completely different. That being said, I'd love to be the wealthiest player but I'm not a currency or mid/hightier item flipper.

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AudioBlood727 wrote:

Again, you claim to be spending ~27c per map (18 for sextants, 2 for chisel, call it 1 for alch+scour, 3 for fragmetns, 4 for atziri) as well as the ~25c worth for a t16 map for an investment of 52c per map. And then you claim a profit of 40c per map. That means you're actually making like 100c per map. You're either lying intentionally or unintentionally super incorrect.

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Abdiel_Kavash wrote:

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Magpower wrote:

In other words: I want to sustain on any build I choose- does this guide do that with a variety of builds in your experience, or is this all coming from the viewpoint of an iiq character?

Item quantity modifiers from your character's stats do not affect the drop rates of Maps. Only quantity from the map itself and from monster modifiers matters.

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AudioBlood727 wrote:

Again, you claim to be spending ~27c per map (18 for sextants, 2 for chisel, call it 1 for alch+scour, 3 for fragmetns, 4 for atziri) as well as the ~25c worth for a t16 map for an investment of 52c per map. And then you claim a profit of 40c per map. That means you're actually making like 100c per map. You're either lying intentionally or unintentionally super incorrect.

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Magpower wrote:

I did not know that player quant did not effect map drops. I do have a follow up question though, which is still pertinent to whether or not you're running iiq.

As long as we're discussing sustain: are the raw currency drops enough on their own to sustain using this method? Or do you supplement through trade? Your anecdote only mentions the map portion of sustain, not the currency to continue to roll after the fact, e.g. if you're running SSF.

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Question2 wrote:

For the mediocre "nothing" maps with 20-25% pack size, do you guys still run them with sextants or no?

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poeticEnnui wrote:

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Magpower wrote:

I did not know that player quant did not effect map drops. I do have a follow up question though, which is still pertinent to whether or not you're running iiq.

As long as we're discussing sustain: are the raw currency drops enough on their own to sustain using this method? Or do you supplement through trade? Your anecdote only mentions the map portion of sustain, not the currency to continue to roll after the fact, e.g. if you're running SSF.

You won't be able to sustain sextants. I don't think T16 sustain is possible in SSF, though I haven't tested it.