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the_Arkain wrote:

Is there a noticeable change of the lower level of the spectres?

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Gem Level 21 - 78
Gem Level 22 - 80
Then +1 Spectre Level per gem for gem levels 23+

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sniperms wrote:

Hi, kayella

This is an example of the level of the specter you were telling before.
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Spectre level is incredibly important - a level 73 spectre has half the dps of a level 84.

The level of your spectre is limited by 'Raise spectre', 'Desecrate' and the zone you raise them in, whichever is lowest.

Example 1: Both gems at level 19:
1) Shaper's Realm, map level 84
2) Raise Spectre can raise spectres up to level 100
3) Desecrate can create corpses up to level 81

Result: Your spectres will be level 81
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I'll ask a question here

You said, "Raise Specter can raise spectres up to level 100."
So, if the both gems is 20 level on the 84 level map, is it correct to summon the 84 level Specter?

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3.8.0

Now sets the level of Raised Spectres, rather than limiting the level of the corpses you can raise as Spectres.
Now grants your minions 150 additional Accuracy Rating at gem level 1 (from 142), up to 1109 at gem level 20 (from 824).
No longer modifies the Life, Energy Shield or Damage of the minion.
Now allows you to raise additional Spectres as the gem levels, up to 2 maximum Raised Spectres at gem level 20 (and more at higher gem levels).

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kjanos89 wrote:

Damn I thought just one time I can read GGG's minds and necro ascendancy will get nerfed :D
Well we're simply forced to use the new cluster jewels to be as powerful as before and with EVF's high HP the survival nerf isn't really bad either.
I was expecting worse things to happen, also I'm a bit sad +1 spectre body armour mod isn't craftable yet.

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sniperms wrote:

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sniperms wrote:
Hi, kayella

This is an example of the level of the specter you were telling before.
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Spectre level is incredibly important - a level 73 spectre has half the dps of a level 84.

The level of your spectre is limited by 'Raise spectre', 'Desecrate' and the zone you raise them in, whichever is lowest.

Example 1: Both gems at level 19:
1) Shaper's Realm, map level 84
2) Raise Spectre can raise spectres up to level 100
3) Desecrate can create corpses up to level 81

Result: Your spectres will be level 81
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I'll ask a question here

You said, "Raise Specter can raise spectres up to level 100."
So, if the both gems is 20 level on the 84 level map, is it correct to summon the 84 level Specter?

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Where did you find this? That was in a much older version of the guide! Maybe you found that in the archive?

The old RS was like this:


At lower level, spectres had negative modifier on damage/life/es. So at gem level 1, spectres had -30% damage, -20% life, -20% ES. They died easily, so people even levelled with storm brand and switched to spectres in Act 8 or even in maps. Also, the spectre level was based on the level of the zone. So you always saw people in General chat begging to use Shaper realm for raising spectres. You could even sell portals for 10c.

In 3.8, GGG changed Raise Spectre. Nowadays, the gem will say exactly the level of the spectres and there are no negative modifier on damage and life!

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Orbu wrote:

Spectre levels update (by gem level) from GGG:

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Gem Level 21 - 78
Gem Level 22 - 80
Then +1 Spectre Level per gem for gem levels 23+

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