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kayella wrote:

Hi, yep, just preparing build guide for 3.10!

Hi Kayella,

I wanted to say I'm so impressed with the amount of work you've put in to your guide. I played when POE released on PS4 and got to level 88 following Enki's guide but eventually had RL stuff going on and stopped playing.

I had a real hunger the other day to jump back in the game, but I figured I might as well wait for the new season before starting. I've been looking at the different guides and yours is by the far the most user-friendly.

I see from the quote above you're working on updating the guide for 3.10. Will that be released the same day as the new season or will you need some time to put it together after it releases?

I'm really excited to try the build out. Thanks in advance for your help!

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MonkiGW2 wrote:

I also tried Vendigos last league and noticed their lack of damage but I loved the flickering. I switched to Deadly Tarantulas: https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Deadly+Tarantula and they had much more damage and they used Viper Strike. What do you think? Could this be a alternate? They convert physical damage to chaos damage, and applies poison. They are in the boss area of Jungle Valley maps.

How did you go with the Deadly Tarantulas? I tried them, but they don't seem to use their flicker strike much? I just saw them standing around with full frenzy charges.

I dont know if someone already talked about this and i'm probably missing something pretty obvious

but for some reason Spirit offering + CWDT + Desecrate didnt worked whith spirit " true " Level 8 ( meaning level 11 with +3 from global modifier ) despite the " level 38 required " in the tooltip .

It is working with level 5 true level + 3 modifier for me tho

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corpsehound wrote:

One thing to consider that I didn't mention in my testing was: even though Ruthless did about the same damage in total as the other supports, it was much better at applying stuns and ailments. This is due to the 3rd huge hit, of course.


Maybe you wouldn't need them. Remember on bosses they have a separate ailment threshold that is quite a bit lower than their total health pool. See here discussion of ailments on Siris lvl 8:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/f00clz/ailment_threshold_numbers_revealed_25mil_shock/


*IF* their numbers are correct, you'd need about 1.2mil lightning damage to shock him at 15%. You wouldn't need even that much fire damage to ignite him so that your EVFs could dispatch him. (Testing required of course.)


I'd consider Ruthless in place of Conc Effect for bigger chills, freezes, and shocks.

I remember that reddit post. The 25M threshold makes the ailment threshold similar to old boss hp values.

So only 1.2M lightning to get 15%. I think with Ruthless, the single lightning hit could be much higher than 1.2M. But if we use a 15% shock value, then Ruthless has overall similar damage to Conc Effect. (132% divide by 3 hits + 15% shock) vs (54% more).

Also with Hatred, the single cold hit could be more than 1.2M as well. Especially if there is a shock. So it might be possible to freeze endgame bosses for a short duration!

Unfortunately PoB numbers are totally off, but I think this could be the best 6L:


Edit: this also makes the build more accessible because it will work with int, str or hybird int/str for body armour. Str based delve body is so cheap because almost everyone uses SDs.

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Ignite will work even with 1 fire damage. They just need to crit to start the ignite, but I think HFT is more reliable for finishing the boss (and generating frenzy charges).

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Crispinner wrote:

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kayella wrote:

Hi, yep, just preparing build guide for 3.10!

Hi Kayella,

I wanted to say I'm so impressed with the amount of work you've put in to your guide. I played when POE released on PS4 and got to level 88 following Enki's guide but eventually had RL stuff going on and stopped playing.

I had a real hunger the other day to jump back in the game, but I figured I might as well wait for the new season before starting. I've been looking at the different guides and yours is by the far the most user-friendly.

I see from the quote above you're working on updating the guide for 3.10. Will that be released the same day as the new season or will you need some time to put it together after it releases?

I'm really excited to try the build out. Thanks in advance for your help!

I always have the forum guide ready for league start!

I have some major upgrades to the guide. I want to simplify it more and make it easier for people to start the league and also improve their character as they level and map more. I'm also slowly adding in more explanation so people can understand the build.

I'm actually levelling a witch again now to check the levelling guide.

I'm thinking of recording a basic video guide as well. But it'll be a plain video without the usual background gameplay. I'm not a native English speaker, so it takes me a long time to make videos.

Edit:
I have been re-doing the passive tree and I think thread of hope isn't even needed!

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Cherishu wrote:

I dont know if someone already talked about this and i'm probably missing something pretty obvious

but for some reason Spirit offering + CWDT + Desecrate didnt worked whith spirit " true " Level 8 ( meaning level 11 with +3 from global modifier ) despite the " level 38 required " in the tooltip .

It is working with level 5 true level + 3 modifier for me tho

That's really strange.

CWDT should only work with natural level.



Here my gem is level 8 (+3 from mods). You can see CWDT (level 1) is active when I put my mouse over it.

I also checked it by pushing my gem to level 9. You can see CWDT (level 1) is not active now.

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kayella wrote:

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YamiYami0204 wrote:

what damage vaal fallen deal?? POB is showing physical, but when i am in map reflect element damage, my spectre is dying?? ( drop hatred)

PoB shows wrong information. There is base physical damage, but EVF does 100% elemental conversion. PoB doesn't show this, though.

You need to reroll ele reflect.

EVF deal element damage, it will be random elemental damage?? so how we can trigger EE in skill tree?

Thanks Kay, ill keep to my setup then :)

I have been Looking the big wep of information for a great Melee focus Spectre doing phys damage.

I am using EVF and I love em, but I would like to try ohter setups to :)

Can you recommend Any?

I hear Ash Harvester should be good?

Thx

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kayella wrote:

So only 1.2M lightning to get 15%. I think with Ruthless, the single lightning hit could be much higher than 1.2M. But if we use a 15% shock value, then Ruthless has overall similar damage to Conc Effect. (132% divided by 3 hits + 15% shock) vs (54% more).

It's hard to say with PoB not giving accurate numbers, but I think your average hit at end game will be at or above 1.2m and the 3rd attack much more, giving you nice and sustained 15%+ shocks. Since the EVFs gain 25% chance to Freeze, Shock, and Ignite, you're not totally dependent on them to crit to apply the ailments.

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kayella wrote:

Also with Hatred, the single cold hit could be more than 1.2M as well. Especially if there is a shock. So it might be possible to freeze endgame bosses for a short duration!

Yes, I think so. You might yet win me over to Hatred. I'm still going to compare it with Skitterbot + Precision + Carrion Golem, though.

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kayella wrote:

The best 6L:

Edit: this also makes the build more accessible because it will work with int, str or hybrid int/str for body armour. Str based delve body is so cheap because almost everyone uses SDs.

The build is really coming along nicely and promises to be fun and devastatingly effective. I may have to league start with this while I stockpile Ex for the Champion Impale Spectres build. :)

Too many good things to try out. (Spellslinger with a Slayer using Badge of the Brotherhood amulet + Masterful Form, Discharge, Astral Projector, and Void Battery anyone? Expensive, but crazy fun!)

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kayella wrote:

I'm thinking of recording a basic video guide as well. But it'll be a plain video without the usual background gameplay. I'm not a native English speaker, so it takes me a long time to make videos.

Please do! One suggestion: Increase and equalize your voice level if you are able. It can be hard to hear you at times in your previous vids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmD9aCjcTGQ
Keep up the great work, and if you have any English-related questions PM me (I used to teach English including a lot of English as Second Language work.)

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MonkiGW2 wrote:

I also tried Vendigos last league and noticed their lack of damage but I loved the flickering.

Me, too. Were you using Impale support and Dread Banner?

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MonkiGW2 wrote:

I switched to Deadly Tarantulas: https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Deadly+Tarantula and they had much more damage and they used Viper Strike. What do you think? Could this be a alternate? They convert physical damage to chaos damage, and apply poison. They are in the boss area of Jungle Valley maps.

Haven't tried them. They could certainly be good, but you would have to support them differently and with different auras than the Vendigos to maximize their potential. Depends on whether your prime interest is the Flicker Strike or the Impale mechanic. These guys convert phys to chaos, so they aren't as good for an Impale build.