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Got a question about the guard skill. I don't think we're generating endurance charges so I opted for Ahn's Heritage shield for the +3 to max resists (and extra armor and onslaught while at minimum endurance charges). Got a decent corruption on it too 4% chance to block spell damage. Seems like a fine choice.

That being said I'm at 12K armor and seems like lvl 20 Vaal MS or Steelskin would be more beneficial than IC which only lasts 1sec without any endurance charges. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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GoatMonger wrote:
Got a question about the guard skill. I don't think we're generating endurance charges so I opted for Ahn's Heritage shield for the +3 to max resists (and extra armor and onslaught while at minimum endurance charges). Got a decent corruption on it too 4% chance to block spell damage. Seems like a fine choice.

That being said I'm at 12K armor and seems like lvl 20 Vaal MS or Steelskin would be more beneficial than IC which only lasts 1sec without any endurance charges. Would love to hear your thoughts.


I suggested level 16 for IC, so it absorbs 33/32% of damage. That's equivalent to level 18 steel skin which absorbs flat 1711 damage. So, I think IC will provide more damage absorption if you are taking many big hits quickly.

If you are going for high armour, maybe use a basalt flask of iron skin. If you use an alchemist's basalt of iron skin, I think you can get 20k+ armour. And then VMS becomes the best option.

But, I'm working on something new that is even better! I'm working on the new build video now and hopefully upload it tomorrow.
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kayella wrote:
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GoatMonger wrote:
Got a question about the guard skill. I don't think we're generating endurance charges so I opted for Ahn's Heritage shield for the +3 to max resists (and extra armor and onslaught while at minimum endurance charges). Got a decent corruption on it too 4% chance to block spell damage. Seems like a fine choice.

That being said I'm at 12K armor and seems like lvl 20 Vaal MS or Steelskin would be more beneficial than IC which only lasts 1sec without any endurance charges. Would love to hear your thoughts.


I suggested level 16 for IC, so it absorbs 33/32% of damage. That's equivalent to level 18 steel skin which absorbs flat 1711 damage. So, I think IC will provide more damage absorption if you are taking many big hits quickly.

If you are going for high armour, maybe use a basalt flask of iron skin. If you use an alchemist's basalt of iron skin, I think you can get 20k+ armour. And then VMS becomes the best option.

But, I'm working on something new that is even better! I'm working on the new build video now and hopefully upload it tomorrow.


looking forward to the new build
thanks for everything!
Thanks for the reply! I'm gonna stick with IC then. The experimenter's basalt flask of iron skin only gets me to 14K armor so it'll take a little more commitment to get to 20K+. Also I prefer having "of grounding" on my last flask so I guess that's that! Good luck with your next build, this one was solid. Hope the next one is too. Cheers!
Hi. Ty for nice build. I switched to EB/MoM version. I have few q.

1. I dont have exactly same colours on items so i had to improvise. Is it ok?

2. I cant craft decent shiled with Recover life/es + 100+ life. I use this shield.



Is it worth switch to this shield?



3. I want continue on std. I want use clarity + jewel (extra ES) + unset ring (for clarity gem) + amulet (Haste reserve no mana).



Is it worth?

My current gear on league:



https://pastebin.com/pydP5cXg

Hey Kay

Bonechill + Skitterbots? It's 7% more mana reservation so 42% total Do you think it's worth it when using EVF with Hatred?

Then maby the use of Hypothermia Support with EVF and Zombies/skeletons to freeze bosses?

And what about using Elemental Damage with Attacks Support with EVF? I have a Awakened, do you think it's worth it over multi or melee phys?

What do you think?

PS. The New spider/EVF on youtube, Nice build :)
Last edited by BA3YDADDY#8587 on Feb 20, 2020, 11:19:45 PM
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BA3YDADDY wrote:
Hey Kay

Bonechill + Skitterbots? It's 7% more mana reservation so 42% total Do you think it's worth it when using EVF with Hatred?

Then maby the use of Hypothermia Support with EVF and Zombies/skeletons to freeze bosses?

And what about using Elemental Damage with Attacks Support with EVF? I have a Awakened, do you think it's worth it over multi or melee phys?

What do you think?

PS. The New spider/EVF on youtube, Nice build :)


One problem is EVF randomly use one element and only do that damage, so scaling a lot of cold damage is not useful if they use fire or lightning. They can already freeze map bosses if they crit. Endgame bosses have too much hp to freeze though.

I think Awakened EDWA could be really good, but POB doesn't calculate their DPS correctly - it doesn't do the 100% ele conversion. It would replace Conc Effect (59% more + 20% increase vs 54% more + 10% increased).

I use Awakened Melee Phys because it has a chance to proc Intimidate (monster takes 10% more damage).


New Spider/EVF build is really good to play if you can get Arakaali's Dagger. It just makes mapping so smooth. I think it maps better than a pure spectre build because it works indoor and outdoor. And the spiders can't die like slave drivers or skeletons.



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Thx Kay

I have to try out That spider build :)

Thx again
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Vocasek9 wrote:
Hi. Ty for nice build. I switched to EB/MoM version. I have few q.

1. I dont have exactly same colours on items so i had to improvise. Is it ok?

2. I cant craft decent shiled with Recover life/es + 100+ life. I use this shield.

s it worth switch to this shield?

3. I want continue on std. I want use clarity + jewel (extra ES) + unset ring (for clarity gem) + amulet (Haste reserve no mana).



Is it worth?


1. Perfectly fine! Just make sure the important links are the same. You can move the single gems like Convocation to any place.

2. My shield also has a low life roll.


3. You get more DPS but lose HP if you use Aul's amulet. I think defense is more important now with awakening bonus.
I think the watcher's eye jewel is too expensive for the small benefit, so I don't include it in the build now.


I just uploaded a build guide video for a different version of the build. It uses almost the same tree and equipment as EB/MoM. You might want to try it before end of 3.9!

PoE 3.9 - Spectres & Spiders Summoner Build Guide


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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Feb 21, 2020, 4:56:38 AM
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GoatMonger wrote:
Also I prefer having "of grounding" on my last flask so I guess that's that! Good luck with your next build, this one was solid. Hope the next one is too. Cheers!


I'm not sure what you gave you AG, but there is an interesting combination if you want full elemental ailment immunity:



Sin Eater costs about 15-20c on trade. The AG will take any ignite, freeze, chill or shock.
Vix Lunaris costs about 3c on trade. It's to stop the AG getting freeze locked.


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