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Hey Kay

Question about Enhanced Vaal Fallen

Aura and Curse

I see you are using Hatred + Generosity + Vul or EW + EE

What about using Pride + Flesh and Stone + Maim + Warbanner + Vul

Then you can also use Brutality?

And another question what about using The Baron If you have around 500strenght? Strength gets added to you minions

Lest say you have 500strenght and using Slave drivers with Baron and Iron Will Support = 100% spell damage plus 50% from gem? Am i wrong or would That not be better then Elemental damage Support?

I know so many questions, sry :D

My english is not the Best but you can check out my character "Drillepigen" in My profile then you know my setup right now and passive tree :)

Thx Hope you can give me a answer because i am a idiot to use PoB to see this

Thx again

hey loving the build so far my second char and been doing really well I'm just a little stuck as to where i should go from here I've kinda made a hybrid of the 2 versions and was wondering if u had any suggestions her is my pob https://pastebin.com/04hWgTCf

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BA3YDADDY wrote:

Hey Kay

Question about Enhanced Vaal Fallen

Aura and Curse

I see you are using Hatred + Generosity + Vul or EW + EE

What about using Pride + Flesh and Stone + Maim + Warbanner + Vul

Then you can also use Brutality?

And another question what about using The Baron If you have around 500strenght? Strength gets added to you minions

Lest say you have 500strenght and using Slave drivers with Baron and Iron Will Support = 100% spell damage plus 50% from gem? Am i wrong or would That not be better then Elemental damage Support?

I know so many questions, sry :D

My english is not the Best but you can check out my character "Drillepigen" in My profile then you know my setup right now and passive tree :)

Thx Hope you can give me a answer because i am a idiot to use PoB to see this

Thx again

EVF use leap slam and elemental hit. I believe their version of Elemental hit does a 100% conversion from physical because they seem to scale with melee physical support. It also completely blocks physical damage, so brutality actually makes them do no damage at all.

So you can't use all the nice physical stuff like Pride, Vulnerability, War Banner, Brutality, Maim, etc.

This isn't too bad because it means they share gems with the spell casting spectres and makes it easy to swap between them!


You're almost right with the baron and iron will. It will give 'increased spell damage' vs 'more spell damage' from elemental focus support. This could be better, the same or worse. You'd need to check PoB. If you get Baron, it might be worth pushing for 1000 strength so zombies will leech life to your necro. I know some people following my build do that in their custom version!


On the topic of EVF, I've been working on an update to EVF + Spiders and it is looking really good. It has both fast clear speed and big boss killing damage. I think I'll post it on youtube to demonstrate it.


ps. your necro looks empty?

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notbuffalo wrote:

hey loving the build so far my second char and been doing really well I'm just a little stuck as to where i should go from here I've kinda made a hybrid of the 2 versions and was wondering if u had any suggestions her is my pob https://pastebin.com/04hWgTCf

How is your mechanical skill? You can free up a gem slot by using Incinerate instead of Arma Brand for EE and curse. It also hits very quickly so it can replace Holy Flame Totem as your frenzy charge generator. That extra gem slot is for...

Replacing your amulet with Aul's Uprising/Haste. The free haste will allow you to fit in another aura (zealotry).

You could also try hunter orb slam on your body armour and hope you get 25% increased effect of offering.

After that, I would suggest the EB & MoM build.

Thx for all the help

Ohh yeah the New version of Vis Mortis what do you think with EVF? 20% Ele as extra chaos damage?

My build right now is clearing yellow corrupted 100+ tier 16 maps really fast, it's like easy mode, very Happy with it but I would still like to improve what i can :)

Here is my build in pastebin PoB

Https://pastebin.com/xkim1axp

If you know some tips so i can improve my damage please tell me :) And what is my shaper dps can you see that? :-p

Again thx

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kayella wrote:

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notbuffalo wrote:

hey loving the build so far my second char and been doing really well I'm just a little stuck as to where i should go from here I've kinda made a hybrid of the 2 versions and was wondering if u had any suggestions her is my pob https://pastebin.com/04hWgTCf

How is your mechanical skill? You can free up a gem slot by using Incinerate instead of Arma Brand for EE and curse. It also hits very quickly so it can replace Holy Flame Totem as your frenzy charge generator. That extra gem slot is for...

Replacing your amulet with Aul's Uprising/Haste. The free haste will allow you to fit in another aura (zealotry).

You could also try hunter orb slam on your body armour and hope you get 25% increased effect of offering.

After that, I would suggest the EB & MoM build.

thank you so much,mechanicly i do fine im not dying much with the 7k life
and i will look into getting the amulet so i can have yet another aura, and i will try the incinirate that should be nice cause i took my skele''s out on bosses for the holy flame totem
so i can put those back in for now until i can get the amulet for free hast and put in another aura, should i also keep incinerate at lvl 1? also what enchants should i look for on boots/gloves for when i am running lab, i tried the hunters orb but all it did was add influence didnt give me a single hunters mod to my cheat piece rip

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BA3YDADDY wrote:

Thx for all the help

Ohh yeah the New version of Vis Mortis what do you think with EVF? 20% Ele as extra chaos damage?

My build right now is clearing yellow corrupted 100+ tier 16 maps really fast, it's like easy mode, very Happy with it but I would still like to improve what i can :)

Here is my build in pastebin PoB

Https://pastebin.com/xkim1axp

If you know some tips so i can improve my damage please tell me :) And what is my shaper dps can you see that? :-p

Again thx

I'm not sure if Vis helps them because Elemental Hit always does 0 chaos and 0 physical.

Everything else looks OK, but I think you should try to fit in Convocation. EVF are so slow so the teleport is really helpful.

Minion Speed doesn't help that that much, so you could replace with Melee Physical. That will give them 25% more damage (940k -> 1.2M)

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notbuffalo wrote:

should i also keep incinerate at lvl 1? also what enchants should i look for on boots/gloves for when i am running lab, i tried the hunters orb but all it did was add influence didnt give me a single hunters mod to my cheat piece rip

Incinerate mana cost is quite low and higher levels make the aoe bigger, so just level it up.

That's really bad about your hunter orb :( Did you check the ilevel of your body army before you use the orb? You need item level 80-83 for a 50-50 chance to get increased effect of Offering.

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kayella wrote:

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BA3YDADDY wrote:

Thx for all the help

Ohh yeah the New version of Vis Mortis what do you think with EVF? 20% Ele as extra chaos damage?

My build right now is clearing yellow corrupted 100+ tier 16 maps really fast, it's like easy mode, very Happy with it but I would still like to improve what i can :)

Here is my build in pastebin PoB

Https://pastebin.com/xkim1axp

If you know some tips so i can improve my damage please tell me :) And what is my shaper dps can you see that? :-p

Again thx

I'm not sure if Vis helps them because Elemental Hit always does 0 chaos and 0 physical.

Everything else looks OK, but I think you should try to fit in Convocation. EVF are so slow so the teleport is really helpful.

Minion Speed doesn't help that that much, so you could replace with Melee Physical. That will give them 25% more damage (940k -> 1.2M)

Really don't wanna use 10000 chroms more on My bow :}

Any blue gems you would say i can use and not minion speed? What about elemental Support? Would That work?

Thx

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BA3YDADDY wrote:

Any blue gems you would say i can use and not minion speed? What about elemental Support? Would That work?

Thx

Elemental Focus will work!