Remove the lab, it is what made me quit Abyss and now I am torturing myself

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MuesliKriega wrote:

Just remove it, it is the absolute worst content ever created for PoE, it is so unbelievably shit.

That's your opinion. Why should I have to lose something I like bc you RIP to it?

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bwam wrote:

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MuesliKriega wrote:

Just remove it, it is the absolute worst content ever created for PoE, it is so unbelievably shit.

That's your opinion. Why should I have to lose something I like bc you RIP to it?

Indeed, it's the only part of the game where more than just the monsters are a threat. It's great.

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

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bwam wrote:

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MuesliKriega wrote:

Just remove it, it is the absolute worst content ever created for PoE, it is so unbelievably shit.

That's your opinion. Why should I have to lose something I like bc you RIP to it?

Indeed, it's the only part of the game where more than just the monsters are a threat. It's great.

disagreed,

it is poorly implemented and does not fit into the game in the slightest.
not lore, not with the limited camera view , not with balance.
The uber trails are the worst part of the lab experience as they are excessive and hard to find all each league.

Why should someone be forced to play frogger in an arpg.
Just because you like it does not mean it isn't the worse content made for poe.
It is not just his opinion , but the opinion of many.

Just dont go to lab if you play

- Non or low life char
- Wearing bones of ullr ;) or play slow char
- Slow or non regen life char
- Low dps char
- Have no block and phys mutigation
- And if you poor and|or leaguestarter

Thats it.
Lab is for maradeurs only o7
The rest just do not bother when the real men can work it out!

xDDD

Like others have said, lab is relatively simple for the right kind of build. I'm rehashing some other lists of properties your build needs, but the way I break it down is that you need to have the following characteristics (besides decent DPS):

1. Good physical mitigation
2. Good health pool regen
3. Good mobility

If you have those things the lab can be pretty stress-free and a fun way to farm currency other than maps. If you don't the lab can be extremely frustrating (and I've experienced this on many occasions). While I have several characters with good DPS and the first two qualities who can run lab reliably but not quickly, I'm finally now building a character who will have all three and I'm excited to use him as a lab runner.

However, since lab is mandatory for all characters/builds, the fact that it's suitable for only certain defenses is problematic and angers players who favor other playstyles. I like the concept of being able to create characters geared at being lab-runners, but I also wish the lab was more forgiving for evasion or leech-based characters, or characters who focus on elemental mitigation instead of physical.

Go righteous fire like the rest of us.

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nadakuu wrote:

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

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bwam wrote:

That's your opinion. Why should I have to lose something I like bc you RIP to it?

Indeed, it's the only part of the game where more than just the monsters are a threat. It's great.

disagreed,

it is poorly implemented and does not fit into the game in the slightest.
not lore, not with the limited camera view , not with balance.
The uber trails are the worst part of the lab experience as they are excessive and hard to find all each league.

Why should someone be forced to play frogger in an arpg.
Just because you like it does not mean it isn't the worse content made for poe.
It is not just his opinion , but the opinion of many.

It's the only content that requires you to pay attention. The rest of the game is just mindless killing (even maps). It isn't until you get to red maps & some bosses that positioning starts to matter (unless you like rolling awful mods on maps I guess).

I haven't experienced the Uber Labyrinth but I have multiple experiences with the lab's preceding it.

Post removed because it shouldn't have been made in the first place.

Regardless of my inability to argue well, I still thoroughly enjoy the content more than the regular content. I'm indifferent to removing ascendency from the Labyrinths (gear buffs should remain tied to labyrinth though)

I agree, the labs in the story needs to be removed, they don't fit in anymore, it's from a league gone past. It puts a huge physical dextarity wall in front of new players that are still learning good movement and flask usage. perandus was from a time when there was a lot of diablo 2 players, that had the movement in the game down to muscle memory. It's time for it to go, I played perandus, and it was really fun, but just doesn't fit anymore. keep the Uber lab tho