Poll: Should we add Nets that work on Dead Beasts?

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Toots wrote:

And you always, always have the choice of not using dead nets should they be implemented if you object to them.

GGG says they don't care one way or the other. Which means they do not see this as some sort of existential threat to the game.

The sky is not falling.

Exactly. All of those people claiming they'll quit the league over this makes me laugh. They'll still be here completing challenges after the dead nets are implemented when they see that the sky is not falling in Wraeclast.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

I'm complaining about the net skill desync, not about being slowed down by doing content. The only slowdown I complain about is having to backtrack and re-run an area because one beast capture didn't take. Sometimes the nets never work for me, even with no other mobs around, beast is capture-able, net is level appropriate, and skill just doesn't do anything. Skill timeout starts (so it did trigger), but net is never on beast, then a second later the beast dies. The mechanics are broken. This is one possible solution.

Then they should apply a bug fix. Not implement something that allows clear speed addicts to reap all the rewards with none of the effort.

You're voting for something that won't fix your specific issue. They'll add the necro nets, you'll go back to capture your carcass, and woops, bug happens and you waste a net. Congrats, now you have necro nets and you STILL have the same problem.

In your position, I would have abstained and waited for the bug fix. You're conflating things.

absolutely no!

if u make this league corpse hunter u can simply delete the whole bestiary thing!

It just sounds dumb. Who the hell throws a net on a dead beast? Its dead. The net is not needed its not going to run off. Sounds so freaking dumb.

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Agilaz wrote:

Then they should apply a bug fix. Not implement something that allows clear speed addicts to reap all the rewards with none of the effort.

You're voting for something that won't fix your specific issue. They'll add the necro nets, you'll go back to capture your carcass, and woops, bug happens and you waste a net. Congrats, now you have necro nets and you STILL have the same problem.

It does fix the issue: would you let you capture the beast if a desync or net skill glitch occured during combat. I'd rather have a fix now rather than later. And of course I'd rather have the proper fix instead of dead nets, but GGG didn't give us that voting option for alternate fix. I agree with you that dead nets are not the proper fix, but it still fixes the problem nonetheless.

it does not make sense to capture dead monsters, it also benefits only those who run high levels and finish the league in 1 days, only to make money/currency later, the system loses its meaning and the game itself, with respect to the critique that is a pokemon, that argument does not have intellectual honesty, it's only because of a brain indoctrinated by marketing (boter community), to capture things is older than pokemon.-

so NO!

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Toots wrote:

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Ygidua wrote:

But if this is the philosophy, then we must immediately up drop rates at SSF; remove XP penalty on death, stop with clear speed meta leagues such as Abyss, Breach or Harbinger...

Nonsense. This is a league mechanic that is not working for many builds. This is not some sort of sea-change philosophy that requires the entire game to be rewritten.

And you always, always have the choice of not using dead nets should they be implemented if you object to them.

GGG says they don't care one way or the other. Which means they do not see this as some sort of existential threat to the game.

The sky is not falling.

Yaeh, it is not like certain builds were excluded from really participating in Breach right ?
As much fun as breach was, the difference in clearspeed between builds became very apperent here. Fast clearing build would not only get at least 2-3 times more loot(most importantly breach uniques and splinters) from breaches, they would also encounter way more breaches because of their speed. It became even worse with the breachlord domains, where some build could never do the breachlords, because they weren't able to expand the breach far enough.

Similiar things hold true for Abyss and Harbinger, luckily not to the same degree.

The main difference to this league is, slowing down is possible with only changing your playstyle in certain circumstances, but speeding up is just not possible for builds that focus on different options.


This poll will have a long lasting ripple down effect. It will basically force GGG to reconsider all future game mechanics. And everyone who prefers slower builds now is in their full right to expect beeing catered to in the same way the zoom zoom crowd is. Basically most future features will have to be normalized in regards to there efficiency, regardless of your clearspeed.

I know a lot of the zoom zoom players will argue against it, but that proves that they are hypocrites if they do.

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Isseus wrote:

The whole point of the league is to capture beasts alive so you can make them fight to the death as a sacrifice to the Old Ones.

Let's just say the Old Ones aren't after roadkill.

Well said.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

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Toots wrote:

And you always, always have the choice of not using dead nets should they be implemented if you object to them.

GGG says they don't care one way or the other. Which means they do not see this as some sort of existential threat to the game.

The sky is not falling.

Exactly. All of those people claiming they'll quit the league over this makes me laugh. They'll still be here completing challenges after the dead nets are implemented when they see that the sky is not falling in Wraeclast.

Change nothing. The people who are crying that they can't catch stuff (For one reason on another) "They'll still be here, completing the challenges, after seeing the dead nets are not impoemented". Period.

Also saying that "you just have a choice not to use that net" is B.S. . If something so gamebreaking and ridiculing the entire leagues mechanics gets implemented, everyone will have to use it to keep up, else it's just being outright stupid. You're naive if you think ppl will "play without it". IF it's implemented I'll use it too, and I'll hate every single second of that non-sense, because the entire soul of Bestiary league will be DEAD (which I suppose is fitting for the birth of the ROADKILL league).