[3.0] WanderFinder Under 1ex Guardians/Shaper no problem.

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Morggause wrote:

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Sisyphoos wrote:

can shield charge used in this build as a mobile skill? i really love shield charge. it makes things so fast and fun LUL

No shield charge with a wand.

dem. i thought using a shield is enough LUL

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Morggause wrote:

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tsohar77 wrote:

i think about this maybe after buff scion the build can be better on him
i do skill tree:

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we take all pathfinder point and accept more good things for assassin
1.5 critical
40% critical multiplier
20 chance to gain power charge

more life and skill point and resistance

or maybe take scion with another class
its good idea?

If you really want to go scion, then Pathfinder/Berserker is in theory more dps then Pathfinder/Assassin. But still an overall dps loss (nothing major tbh) compared to straight ranger Pathfinder or even Raider. You do get a bit more resist from the tree and more overall life so you would have an "easier" time gearing up, so all in all it should be viable if you want to do something a bit different then everybody else.

i do mistake and think that pathfinder accept very nerf and all this

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The Ascendant's Pathfinder skill now grants 30% increased Damage while using a Flask (up from 25%), 10% increased Movement Speed while using a flask, 10% chance for your Flasks to not consume Charges, and a 50% chance to gain a Flask charge when you deal a Critical Strike. It no longer grants 50% increased Flask Charges gained, 50% chance to avoid Freeze, Shock, Ignite and Bleeding while using a Flask, or 4% reduced Elemental Damage taken while using a Flask.

was for pathfinder but its just on scion so pathfinder didn't accept any nerf any way tanks for answer my mistake

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Sisyphoos wrote:

can shield charge used in this build as a mobile skill? i really love shield charge. it makes things so fast and fun LUL

Unfortunately not, it has the melee tag which doesn't allow it to be used with a wand. We're limited to Flamedash or lightning warp, though LW generally takes a 4Link to feel smooth so just Flamedash.

Great job.

but i think when it's for doing shaper or bosses with no mobs..the raider gets the advantage of keeping the frenzy charges on...
but loses the quality of life from many flask charges...

I feel clunk to generate frenzy against a boss with no mobs

if there was some other way to generate on hit, it would solve that problem.

so in that context, i think raider can output better dmg than pathfinder..wht do u think?

Theres no need to have a movement skill when you have a 180% movement speed modifier. Just something like Flame Dash for certain jumps.

For mapping a rotgut quicksilver flask and just zoom zoom zoom.

So, after all the changes, nerfs, etc, the buil is still viable for 3.0?

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Brenovisky wrote:

So, after all the changes, nerfs, etc, the buil is still viable for 3.0?

Yes I would still say it's viable. I will play it myself with some changes but all and all it will work as a cheap league starter with damage needed to farm some currency. :)

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Brenovisky wrote:

So, after all the changes, nerfs, etc, the buil is still viable for 3.0?

Yes, definitely. The damage is down a bit (looks like 15-20% less damage in 3.0 compared to 2.6) but part of that is due to the crit/crit multi reductions on nodes which will impact a huge number of builds. So you can't look at this one specific build and say "well it got nerfed, it must suck!" if the majority of builds also took a similarly equal nerf.

I think this build will be on par with the majority of builds, it should still be cheap to gear, effective to map with. It might not be the best Guardian/Shaper farmer although I suspect it'll still be fine at that content as well, and worse case scenario you use this as your league starter to farm up currency and make something else in a few weeks.

Personally I've been running numbers through PoB and I think as a League Starter, meaning I won't have Dying Sun, Taste of Hate, etc. at least not for a week or two, it will make more sense to start as Raider, so for now that's my plan.

As Raider, what is best order to spend asc. points?