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Hi. How much HP do you consider comfortable? 6300-6500ish viable?

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loonger wrote:

Hi. How much HP do you consider comfortable? 6300-6500ish viable?

I would say that's a good starting point. You can definitely do all content with even less life then that. You can tweak it to fit your playstyle and content that you do on avg. It's possible to hit 8k life if you try a little, maybe even 9k. But my advice is just do what feels good to you.

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Supergaco wrote:

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loonger wrote:

Hi. How much HP do you consider comfortable? 6300-6500ish viable?

I would say that's a good starting point. You can definitely do all content with even less life then that. You can tweak it to fit your playstyle and content that you do on avg. It's possible to hit 8k life if you try a little, maybe even 9k. But my advice is just do what feels good to you.

Thanks. 6300HP on berserker is equivalent to 5700HP on other class. The one-shot issue in end-game such as Shaper/Guardians/Uber is a big concern...

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loonger wrote:

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Supergaco wrote:

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loonger wrote:

Hi. How much HP do you consider comfortable? 6300-6500ish viable?

I would say that's a good starting point. You can definitely do all content with even less life then that. You can tweak it to fit your playstyle and content that you do on avg. It's possible to hit 8k life if you try a little, maybe even 9k. But my advice is just do what feels good to you.

Thanks. 6300HP on berserker is equivalent to 5700HP on other class. The one-shot issue in end-game such as Shaper/Guardians/Uber is a big concern...

It does depend on which content you'll do.

• For deathless mapping t10 and below, 6.5k is plenty.
• For Uber Atziri, 6-6.5k should be enough life, but you need to play it correctly. Even with 7.2k life, trash mobs can 2 shot me and maybe oneshot on crit. To farm Uber, you'll want >200k tooltip or >4.5m boss DPS, otherwise the final boss room is a bit tricky.
• For Shaper, 7.2k is plenty and even 6.5k should be enough if you play the bullet ring boss correctly. He can oneshot through 6k life. Also, don't try tanking Shaper's slam no matter how much life you have.
• Chimera adds with zero damage mods and fortify do at least 6-6.5k damage on a crit. With 7.2k life, they oneshot me if there's a single damage mod on the map, and I expect to rip at least once or twice in such maps. With 7.2k life and no damage mods on the map, it's deathless.
• If you're leeching, 7.2k is enough to tank every beyond boss in shaped shore, but Bameth's DD will wreck you if you're not hitting him or a bunch of trash mobs when the wave passes you by.
• Volatiles in shaped shore will oneshot through 7.2k life, but not through 8.3k.

When I want to level, I respec to have 8.2-8.5k life, losing 20-30% DPS. I've theory crafted getting 9k life, but int and dex start being a problem and that requires a lot of DPS loss (50% I think). Keep in mind that I level by doing super rippy content to maximize XP/hour.

When I want to farm t15 bosses, t16 bosses, shaper, uber atziri, vaal temple, etc., then 7.2k is quite comfortable for almost everything.

You only need enough life to avoid oneshots. Beyond that, make sure you're always doing damage so that you're leeching. Leech takes care of the rest of the survivability issues.

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MoldyDwarf wrote:

It does depend on which content you'll do.

• For deathless mapping t10 and below, 6.5k is plenty.
• For Uber Atziri, 6-6.5k should be enough life, but you need to play it correctly. Even with 7.2k life, trash mobs can 2 shot me and maybe oneshot on crit. To farm Uber, you'll want >200k tooltip or >4.5m boss DPS, otherwise the final boss room is a bit tricky.
• For Shaper, 7.2k is plenty and even 6.5k should be enough if you play the bullet ring boss correctly. He can oneshot through 6k life. Also, don't try tanking Shaper's slam no matter how much life you have.
• Chimera adds with zero damage mods and fortify do at least 6-6.5k damage on a crit. With 7.2k life, they oneshot me if there's a single damage mod on the map, and I expect to rip at least once or twice in such maps. With 7.2k life and no damage mods on the map, it's deathless.
• If you're leeching, 7.2k is enough to tank every beyond boss in shaped shore, but Bameth's DD will wreck you if you're not hitting him or a bunch of trash mobs when the wave passes you by.
• Volatiles in shaped shore will oneshot through 7.2k life, but not through 8.3k.

When I want to level, I respec to have 8.2-8.5k life, losing 20-30% DPS. I've theory crafted getting 9k life, but int and dex start being a problem and that requires a lot of DPS loss (50% I think). Keep in mind that I level by doing super rippy content to maximize XP/hour.

When I want to farm t15 bosses, t16 bosses, shaper, uber atziri, vaal temple, etc., then 7.2k is quite comfortable for almost everything.

You only need enough life to avoid oneshots. Beyond that, make sure you're always doing damage so that you're leeching. Leech takes care of the rest of the survivability issues.

Thanks! It's very informative.

Can you check my gear, please?
I currently have 105k dps unbuffed, should get a bit more once i level my gems to 20.
Should this be enough for shaper and uber atziri once i get more levels, like 90 or 95?

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theLt wrote:

Can you check my gear, please?
I currently have 105k dps unbuffed, should get a bit more once i level my gems to 20.
Should this be enough for shaper and uber atziri once i get more levels, like 90 or 95?

Your gear looks pretty reasonable. Should be plenty for Shaper.

For Uber Atziri, I found the fight became dramatically easier once I had 200k tooltip in hideout with golem and totem and when I used vaal lightning trap on the split phase. You can definitely do it with much less DPS but then you'll have to be a lot more aware of the mechanics. I've gotten so used to double beyond that my automatic reactions are all wrong for Uber (e.g. in double beyond breaches it's best to tank everything and hug the bosses or you'll die from loss of leech, in uber you have to avoid all the one-shot damage).

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Faithix wrote:

Hey just a quick question, I've noticed you've switched your wildfire jewels with 2 rares, are you just testing or is that considered an upgrade that you would also recommend to us?

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, I'm playing around with spectral throw while leveling. I'm trying to see how much I like it, how well it works when I get surprised by a Bameth vaal dd spell, and whether it's better for clearing than molten strike.

So far, it's an interesting change. It's been working remarkably well against Bameth, but I've been starting with easier maps. It's about the same xp/hour, but I'm still learning how to play ST. At the moment, I still prefer molten strike, but I want to give ST a real chance.

I'm playing with 8.5k life and obviously lower DPS at the moment. Volatiles are no longer a problem, but Bameth has given me a little trouble with MS if I don't notice him and he releases a DD just after I clear everything around me. Not sure if CwDT + bone offering would solve the problem, or if VDD would consume the corpses faster than bone offering.

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MoldyDwarf wrote:

Your gear looks pretty reasonable. Should be plenty for Shaper.

For Uber Atziri, I found the fight became dramatically easier once I had 200k tooltip in hideout with golem and totem and when I used vaal lightning trap on the split phase. You can definitely do it with much less DPS but then you'll have to be a lot more aware of the mechanics. I've gotten so used to double beyond that my automatic reactions are all wrong for Uber (e.g. in double beyond breaches it's best to tank everything and hug the bosses or you'll die from loss of leech, in uber you have to avoid all the one-shot damage).

Thank you! I will try the shaper once i reach 6500+ health.