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Freya98 wrote:
does elemental overload even work when u dont have any crit chance? u have to crit within 8 seconds to proc it...
besides it needs 8 seconds to proc, most monsters are already dead after 8 seconds...
isnt it a waste?
yes, but it's helpful against bosses, like you start damaging slow, and after a couple of hits, shit starts "proc'ing" and damage rapes all.
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Posted byGeraki117#1045on Apr 7, 2017, 5:48:31 PM
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ok i see. its nice vs bosses.
isnt anger better than herald of ash btw?
the overkill damage doesnt help vs bosses if i understand the skill correctly, it helps only vs mob groups and there its not necessary cause u 1 shot them anyway.
im playing with arctic armour + herald of ash but im thinking of changing into anger instead. its a more offensive option.
btw this is my molten zerker (char name: RampageBlaster):
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/freya98/characters
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Posted byFreya98#1314on Apr 7, 2017, 6:07:49 PM
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Freya98 wrote:
ok i see. its nice vs bosses.
isnt anger better than herald of ash btw?
the overkill damage doesnt help vs bosses if i understand the skill correctly, it helps only vs mob groups and there its not necessary cause u 1 shot them anyway.
im playing with arctic armour + herald of ash but im thinking of changing into anger instead. its a more offensive option.
btw this is my molten zerker (char name: RampageBlaster):
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/freya98/characters
how is anger better? wtf? herald of ashe CONVERT YOUR PHYSICAL DAMAGE INTO FIRE WHILE ANGER GIVES FLAT FIRE DAMAGE, 50% mana reserve vs 25%, what kinda crack are you on?
i dont even.
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 7:18:53 PM
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Exsilver wrote:
I need some help with this build, please. It's super fun, and the damage is CRAZY! But, I can't take a hit to save my life. I have 6,698 life as of now, and I feel like I can't even take a hit without dying instantly.
your play style is prob run into middle of the pack and then start hitting?
please dont do that, you stay just outside the pact and precast since molten burst have a delay on it, and use basalt flask.
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 7:20:44 PM
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filipmunze wrote:
Really nice build. LVL 70 ATM and going up fast. The only thing that bothers me as a guy who usually doesn't have 50ish ex to spend on bis gear is the cost of everything so I'm going to type out my little accomplishments with around 2ex budget as well as list gear. Please tell me if any of these changes impact the build a lot because I'm still fairly low LVL and have done only T5 maps(without much problems tho).
1st thing I did to lower the budget is plan my resits. With your build you can have only 4 random rare items (I excluded gloves as insanity gloves with life and res cost a bit more than what I can afford) that would need to give on average around 76 resists with completed tree (which I don't have) while still getting decent life and WED on rings and some int, so I kicked HoA out and added PoE. Jumping from 60 to 70% mana reservation doesn't seem to be a problem at T5s.
I also kicked Devoto's out of the build as it costs 7ex+- in league in favor of Hubri's(I know this is a big hit to dps and mobility but gotta start somewhere :/). I'm also curious if Rat's Nest is any good as a substitute as it costs around 2-3ex.
Last thing i did was kick back to a 5l5s axe as 6l is a bit too much for me atm.
Note: this is just for the start as I didn't have +- any currency when i started making this character. I will most certalty switch to HoA/Devoto's(or Rat's if its any good)/6l when i have the curr.
The complete cost of all the items i have atm is under 2 ex and I'm sitting at 4.5k life (yes the next 15 nodes will be life ones as I rushed for keystones), 500 es (O.O), capped res and enough damage to kill T5 bosses without much trouble.
Also here's the link for the gear in spoiler so you all can tell me how bad I am :). currently saving for xoph's and 6l whichever comes 1st.
Sorry to hit you with this kind of block as most of this info is +- known and if someone posted something like this already. If you want i can keep you updated for how far I got with this gear as the only item I'll be switching soon is the amulet.
ok dude first thing, why are you getting wed rings and shit when you are starved on resis? this build does shit tonnes of damage even without wed rings, just get high life/resis ring and you will be good to go.
next gloves, insanity gloves is not a must, you can just go with life resis gloves. oh look 3 slot opened up for resis.
helm, you know what, the only reason you need int is cos that helm, we are already int starved so idk why you would go for hubris, for every int on gear you lose one line of resis, please, switch to a dif helm. (and also rat's nest literally does fuckall for our build, nice crit when we have base crit of 5%, attack speed? you dont need it)
by going "budget you're limiting your gear and literally putting all these extra effort for nothing.
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 7:26:12 PM
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Freya98 wrote:
does elemental overload even work when u dont have any crit chance? u have to crit within 8 seconds to proc it...
besides it needs 8 seconds to proc, most monsters are already dead after 8 seconds...
isnt it a waste?
who told you it needs 8sec to proc it? wtf? where does these number come from?
molten strike does 30 meatballs multi and you do about 5 hits a sec, 10balls per hit thats 50 balls. plus initial hit its 53, not counting the molten burst balls, so you're telling me it takes longer than 8 second when im hitting that many times a sec?
please do your calculation before you say random stuff with numbers pulled out of your ass
and you know what lives longer that 8 second? guardians and shaper, whats the point porcing it on trash?
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 7:33:37 PM
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Freya98 wrote:
ok i see. its nice vs bosses.
isnt anger better than herald of ash btw?
the overkill damage doesnt help vs bosses if i understand the skill correctly, it helps only vs mob groups and there its not necessary cause u 1 shot them anyway.
im playing with arctic armour + herald of ash but im thinking of changing into anger instead. its a more offensive option.
btw this is my molten zerker (char name: RampageBlaster):
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/freya98/characters
how is anger better? wtf? herald of ashe CONVERT YOUR PHYSICAL DAMAGE INTO FIRE WHILE ANGER GIVES FLAT FIRE DAMAGE, 50% mana reserve vs 25%, what kinda crack are you on?
i dont even.
the skill says: if u kill an enemy with an attack, other enemies near them will be ignited for the overkill damage.
if ur fighting a boss like shaper, uber atziri, guardians, the boss is solo. so u cant kill a mob and ignite the boss. in maps with many mobs it would be better in case u didnt kill everything with 1 shot anyway. imho the efficiency vs the boss is more important than the map clearing efficiency.
irrespective of the ignite dmg, the phys into fire gives less paper dps than the flat fire dmg. dunno how relevant paper dps is though.
/edit: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Elemental_Overload
yes ele overload is indeed good only for the big boss fights, but thats enough, so ele overload has its place rightly. its ok :)
btw dont get offended. im quite new to the game and im reading things i dont understand in detail. thats when i ask if i understood it correctly.
just wanna pull out the biggest effieciency of this build that im playing as well now :)
i like it. its nice. i tried cyclone, but im not a fan of it. id rather go with molten strike in maps as well. probably a matter of taste :)
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Posted byFreya98#1314on Apr 7, 2017, 7:40:36 PM
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Freya98 wrote:
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Freya98 wrote:
ok i see. its nice vs bosses.
isnt anger better than herald of ash btw?
the overkill damage doesnt help vs bosses if i understand the skill correctly, it helps only vs mob groups and there its not necessary cause u 1 shot them anyway.
im playing with arctic armour + herald of ash but im thinking of changing into anger instead. its a more offensive option.
btw this is my molten zerker (char name: RampageBlaster):
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/freya98/characters
how is anger better? wtf? herald of ashe CONVERT YOUR PHYSICAL DAMAGE INTO FIRE WHILE ANGER GIVES FLAT FIRE DAMAGE, 50% mana reserve vs 25%, what kinda crack are you on?
i dont even.
the skill says: if u kill an enemy with an attack, other enemies near them will be ignited for the overkill damage.
if ur fighting a boss like shaper, uber atziri, guardians, the boss is solo. so u cant kill a mob and ignite the boss. in maps with many mobs it would be better in case u didnt kill everything with 1 shot anyway. imho the efficiency vs the boss is more important than the map clearing efficiency.
irrespective of the ignite dmg, the phys into fire gives less paper dps than the flat fire dmg. dunno how relevant paper dps is though.
/edit: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Elemental_Overload
yes ele overload is indeed good only for the big boss fights, but thats enough, so ele overload has its place rightly. its ok :)
btw dont get offended. im quite new to the game and im reading things i dont understand in detail. thats when i ask if i understood it correctly.
just wanna pull out the biggest effieciency of this build that im playing as well now :)
i like it. its nice. i tried cyclone, but im not a fan of it. id rather go with molten strike in maps as well. probably a matter of taste :)
omfg dude, you're using ele focus you cant ignite, wtf.... you're new, follow the build, you oneshot everything in maps ok? everything. on the tree, you see those axe damage nodes? yea those buff your base phys damage so that scales on herald of ashe which makes herald alot better, and herald of ashe ignite is not restricted to ele focus therefore YOU CAN IGNITE WITH IT which trash clear is alot better, anger will not work since it just add damage to you and it cannot do anything about you not igniting with ele focus. and for the record, why arent you running flammability with blasphemy?
anger or herald of ashe +flamma blas
anger gives flat damage
herald of ashe gives ignite to trash and flamma pretty much increase your damage by 45% against trash
you tell me which one is better?
you said you want to pull the most efficiency, but you're doing the opposite with your idea.
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 7:57:12 PM
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yes im running flammability + blasphemy. its great!
but im not sure if i understand what u r saying about herald of ash.
so due to ele focus u cant ignite mobs. does that mean ele focus negates the overkill damage of herald of ash?
so u wanna say that converting phys into fire gives more dmg than flat fire. makes sense considering molten strike only converts 60% of phys into fire dmg.
besides i noticed that quality on herald of ash gives % fire dmg. quality on anger is useless for this build.
all correct?
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Posted byFreya98#1314on Apr 7, 2017, 8:13:45 PM
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Freya98 wrote:
yes im running flammability + blasphemy. its great!
but im not sure if i understand what u r saying about herald of ash.
so due to ele focus u cant ignite mobs. does that mean ele focus negates the overkill damage of herald of ash?
so u wanna say that converting phys into fire gives more dmg than flat fire. makes sense considering molten strike only converts 60% of phys into fire dmg.
besides i noticed that quality on herald of ash gives % fire dmg. quality on anger is useless for this build.
all correct?
omg dude, on molten strike gem links you have ele focus, so you cannot ignite with it, BUT herald of ashe is not restricted to that as it is not linked to ele focus therefore the overkill damage will ignite. HERALD OF ASHE WILL IGNITE OK? READ MY PREVIOUS POST PROPERLY
molten strike only convert 60% of phys to fire yes, and the amulet blood of xoph convert the rest into fire (avatar of fire,go read what it does)
just stop with the anger idea ok, its terrible, it makes no sense. (also please tell me how you're going to deal with the mana reservation? arctic armour blasphemy and herald use up 85%, with anger you reserve over 100% mana, nice negative mana)
on your edit: yes swap it out, use wise oak instead
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Posted by69wanted69#2887on Apr 7, 2017, 8:22:31 PM
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