[2.6] IMMORTAL MF GOLEMS - Shaper / Uber / ALL Guardians *WHILE DEAD*

Well this build can carry 4 other people in a max mod map.

I got one shot like easily at start of fight, but these guys doing good.

Chimera seems broken thou, in the phase where he goes into smoke.

Always get frozen

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KoS_illuminati wrote:

Chimera seems broken thou, in the phase where he goes into smoke.

Chimera isn't "broken", it's the one guardian where we cannot completely cheese the mechanics of the fight. :D

Find him in the smoke clouds... don't waste all your portals, it's only three smoke phases. ;)

lightning golem's lightning aura applied to flamegolems can cull too? will it be attributed to lightning golem and hence give increased MF? (lightning golem + culling strike + item rarity)

currently using (lvl4)empower + Lesser multiple proj + Fire Pen + Minion Damage + Spell Echo
+ Flame Golem(level 21) all other gem lvl 20 with 20 quality
should i be dropping something? i feel like i am lacking in damage

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XXFrozenArrowXX wrote:

currently using (lvl4)empower + Lesser multiple proj + Fire Pen + Minion Damage + Spell Echo
+ Flame Golem(level 21) all other gem lvl 20 with 20 quality
should i be dropping something? i feel like i am lacking in damage

The gain from empower does not make up the loss from using another gem like controlled destruction. Empower should only be used in situations where there is no other gem option. Also change from lesser to greater multiple projectiles.

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XXFrozenArrowXX wrote:

currently using (lvl4)empower + Lesser multiple proj + Fire Pen + Minion Damage + Spell Echo
+ Flame Golem(level 21) all other gem lvl 20 with 20 quality
should i be dropping something? i feel like i am lacking in damage

You'll need Controlled Destruction or Elemental Focus (even moar damage but no ignites). Drop either Fire Penetration or Empower. As to why Fire Penetration is better than Empower see my calculation on page 63 of this thread.

LMP is OK for bosses, GMP is better for clear speed in general. Replace Fire Pen with Empower only where you need to increase the golems' health pool, for example at Minotaur.

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XXFrozenArrowXX wrote:

currently using (lvl4)empower + Lesser multiple proj + Fire Pen + Minion Damage + Spell Echo
+ Flame Golem(level 21) all other gem lvl 20 with 20 quality
should i be dropping something? i feel like i am lacking in damage

Empower gives more base damage + minion life.
But controlled destruction is way way way way better than empower. You ll see the difference on damage when you swap them.
Also gmp gives you a lot of clear speed while lesser multiple gives u like 10%+ more projectile damage.
So gmp is again better to get into ur setup.
We dont use elemental focus cuz we dont wanna lose the ignite effect.
Now i ve read the other 2 comments and everyone agrees on same points. It would be better to switch what build suggests.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

We dont use elemental focus cuz we dont wanna lose the ignite effect.

Well, we don't benefit all that much from ignites really, no increased burning damage/DoT or bonus vs burning enemies from tree/ascendancies/gear/vulnerability. We don't stack damage with Emberwake/Taming so all we get is a bit of burning damage, which is 20% of a single hit... while EF yields 10% more damage than CD.

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tomay wrote:

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KoS_illuminati wrote:

Chimera seems broken thou, in the phase where he goes into smoke.

Chimera isn't "broken", it's the one guardian where we cannot completely cheese the mechanics of the fight. :D

Find him in the smoke clouds... don't waste all your portals, it's only three smoke phases. ;)

What about maze of the minotaur?

Dude kills my golems pretty fast.

Hey, loving the the build at the moment.

Just looking for advice where to put investment and where to path in the tree next.

Im not running MF gear just straight ES.