[2.6] IMMORTAL MF GOLEMS - Shaper / Uber / ALL Guardians *WHILE DEAD*

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

Whenever u stop the hate and realize my build is the same as dyg's i ll answer u maturely. Untill then i ll ignore all the hate and keep helping people in need.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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fapmonkey2 wrote:

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Remedin wrote:

Thanks for this nice Build!
leveling from lvl 41 is pure fun :)
got til lvl 75 so far
running the two expensive jewels (might and anima stone), one eminence and as far as i can count right 7 harmony so far :)
currently i have only 5k es so i die from time to time (doing t7's at the moment)
struggling what to get next, but i think it will first be a 400ES helmet to survive better and then look for nice vento's
this is my gear so far:

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and i also have a question about the playstyle while regular mapping.
do you just walk through with quicksilver flask or do you regulary cast ball lightning flesh offering etc? is there a vid out of regular mapping with this build?

because when i run with quicksilver flask some mobs don't get killed (maybe this is because i have additional movementspeed modifier on the flask and should change this to something else)

and which legacy stone do you use for mf'ing or lvling on this build?
noticed yesterday that beyond can be really rippy - these bastards hit hard ^^

I'm not sure why MrsDeath_ keeps answering people without actually answering their question. It's bizarre! Anyway. When mapping, you will indeed leave a lot of mobs behind if you just run through with a quicksilver. I did tests on this - see my previous posts. Basically you're looking at potentially 30-50% of monsters unkilled if you don't backtrack. What percentage you get will depend mostly on minion cast speed (assuming your minions oneshot the trash, which they should if you're thinking of running through). So flesh offering helps, but it's not to everyones liking. You could also try minion speed gem and/or a victario's charity with necromantic aegis. What I do is move to the next pack when the current pack are in the process of being flamed. That way they die offscreen, just in time for me to reach the next pack, when they tele to me or I use convo. It's a matter of practice and having the discipline to ignore stragglers. Only use ball lightning for rare / magic mobs.

I don't think this build will ever be capable of a >90% clear percentage while speeding through, as the minion AI isn't up to it even with prim might.

As for stones, it's a matter of opinion. Breach is a must (ideally double/triple). Other than that, your choice, although there's an onslaught stone that increases your move/ castspeed which is very nice

I gave an advice for a better version of this build(i guess its the one u are using currently). He can use any setup he wants to. I helped a lot of people who using my setup and got positive feedback. Its easiest way of using this build at full potential. I dk how long you have been playing this build but i tested it on every content in the game. I did everything one can do with this build and finished the league with it. If he choses to go double curse heretics i can give advices about how to finish the endgame fights and what to do while mapping-how to map efficiently.

Now looking at your profile and the way u got with this build is not that far enough to give advices. Please do not hate who has obviously better insight on this build.

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seruch wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

Whenever u stop the hate and realize my build is the same as dyg's i ll answer u maturely. Untill then i ll ignore all the hate and keep helping people in need.

Your build is totally different than OP's one mate. You put weight on different things like Blasphemy, other auras/curses. Gear is slightly different also (well mf does not have too many options tho) and most important PLAYSTYLE is different. You can argue that its still golems but i tried OP version (and i consider this most fun build i ever had)) and yours and tbh game feels different on them. That is why i posted, i think that people that come here should try how original works and decide for themselves if OPs ideas are worth to keep for endgame or try something different because it sucks. I for example did not liked your version and still managed to do guardians deathless (well no minotaur) and have no problems doing shaper/helping people with him. Your advices are good but they are mostly pointing straight to your version of build. Also there is no hate here just observation.

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Fistaniderya wrote:

Does minions benefit from your Magic Find or am i missing something. He doesnt have enough damage to cull nor have the links to do damage. I'm a noob summoner so if anyone can confirm if minions benefit from MF it'd be appreciated.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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seruch wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

Whenever u stop the hate and realize my build is the same as dyg's i ll answer u maturely. Untill then i ll ignore all the hate and keep helping people in need.

Your build is totally different than OP's one mate. You put weight on different things like Blasphemy, other auras/curses. Gear is slightly different also (well mf does not have too many options tho) and most important PLAYSTYLE is different. You can argue that its still golems but i tried OP version (and i consider this most fun build i ever had)) and yours and tbh game feels different on them. That is why i posted, i think that people that come here should try how original works and decide for themselves if OPs ideas are worth to keep for endgame or try something different because it sucks. I for example did not liked your version and still managed to do guardians deathless (well no minotaur) and have no problems doing shaper/helping people with him. Your advices are good but they are mostly pointing straight to your version of build. Also there is no hate here just observation.

Totally different? Only 1 set of links need to be changed with mine :D Do you even know my build mate? Please again keep ur hatefull comments to yourself im trying to help here. If you are not going to contribute and block me from contributing this build, u need to stop commenting cuz u are doing no good.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Fistaniderya wrote:

Does minions benefit from your Magic Find or am i missing something. He doesnt have enough damage to cull nor have the links to do damage. I'm a noob summoner so if anyone can confirm if minions benefit from MF it'd be appreciated.

It depends on which golem last hits and what gems linked to the golem. If you have item rarity culling lightning golem linked most probably bosses will be effected by rarity gem. if you have quantity on flame golems then you would wanna summon 6 flame golems. if you can whisper me ingame or public ur characters i can give u some advices about endgame maps.

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seruch wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Fistaniderya wrote:

Does minions benefit from your Magic Find or am i missing something. He doesnt have enough damage to cull nor have the links to do damage. I'm a noob summoner so if anyone can confirm if minions benefit from MF it'd be appreciated.

It depends on which golem last hits and what gems linked to the golem. If you have item rarity culling lightning golem linked most probably bosses will be effected by rarity gem. if you have quantity on flame golems then you would wanna summon 6 flame golems. if you can whisper me ingame or public ur characters i can give u some advices about endgame maps.

This advice IS TOTAL GARBAGE if you are aiming towards MF CULLER/SOLO MF. Never use cull on Ice Golem if you deal 99% of your dmg with fire golems solo or you are in team. Ice golem is not attacking constantly on bosses so he can miss them while affected by curses (temp chains) or any other status that slow his attacks down/movement while Flame is spitting fire/bursting. Also Lightning will never be able to cull whole packs of whites and if you go for MF than you will use Bisco for mad IIQ from whites.