[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

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DamageIncorporated wrote:
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RicoKGB wrote:
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DamageIncorporated wrote:
Hey guys.

Trying to plan around jewels as I level. How much IAS do you need to at least reach 3.5 APS?
I chose the +1 endurance charge belt route, so no CDR for me.



Read FaQ in the guide.


You dont stipulate what it takes to reach 3.5, or if any jewels are necessary to do it but thanks I guess?

3.5 doesn't take any investment it appears.
4.5 though, Kinda hoping to know precisely how many jewels with IAS you need, if its possible to obtain, or worth pursuing. I can see you say how many APS you need but you dont make any suggestions as to how to get it. Does Devotos get you close to 4.5?


Ah, IAS not APS. My fault.

1.15 * (1 + x) * 1.5 = APS

Where x is your total IAS%

So in your case 1.725 * (1+ x) = 4.5 or x = 4.5/1.725 -1 or x = 1.608 or 160.8%

You need total of 161 IAS% to break 4.5 aps mark. Check how much you have from tree in tool like poeplaner or count yourself. Rest comes from gear + jewels.

Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Feb 19, 2018, 10:07:17 AM
I'm level 72 now, lvling is a breeze.

In case someone else would like to know, EDIT: I did not need any IAS on a jewel to reach 3.5 APS. quality /leveled faster attacks is enough.
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So, I'm at 83/83/83 resists, and 4 discharges per sec. The real bitch of this build is equalizing resists for Wise Oak. Unfortunately it didn't happen for me. Hats off to anyone who pulls it off.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Feb 19, 2018, 5:20:35 PM
Looking forward to playing on Standard again for a bit when Abyss ends, itll be nice to use the fancy shield and have all my op jewels in 1 spot. I just wish Standard got a little more love, its so hard buying and selling anything there and people are just flat out mean about it.



Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 19, 2018, 8:31:28 PM
I figured out a way to get 4.5 APS. Replace CWDT Blade Vortex with quality Blood Rage. Replace Increased Accuracy in chest with Quality Culling Strike. Devoto's, and a total of 16% IAS on jewels, gets you there.

It means no Righteous Fire though. I'm not sold on it anyway. Another Discharge per second has got to be better.
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DamageIncorporated wrote:
I figured out a way to get 4.5 APS. Replace CWDT Blade Vortex with quality Blood Rage. Replace Increased Accuracy in chest with Quality Culling Strike. Devoto's, and a total of 16% IAS on jewels, gets you there.

It means no Righteous Fire though. I'm not sold on it anyway. Another Discharge per second has got to be better.


There are easier and more productive ways, no-one here was trying to figure out how to do it, there were just too many ways and combos to list them for you. You can use any combo of attack speed on jewels or skill nodes such as the 3 berserking nodes below your constitution life nodes, the born to fight node, take an extra accuracy and attack speed node near the templar start etc.

In no situation do you replace blade vortex b/c it generates a large amount of charges for the builds dps and healing.

As far as Culling Strike though yes, ive run that for 3 months on mine, 10% more cyclone speed plus the free 10% on bosses.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 20, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
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JCOH35 wrote:
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DamageIncorporated wrote:
I figured out a way to get 4.5 APS. Replace CWDT Blade Vortex with quality Blood Rage. Replace Increased Accuracy in chest with Quality Culling Strike. Devoto's, and a total of 16% IAS on jewels, gets you there.

It means no Righteous Fire though. I'm not sold on it anyway. Another Discharge per second has got to be better.


There are easier and more productive ways, no-one here was trying to figure out how to do it, there were just too many ways and combos to list them for you. You can use any combo of attack speed on jewels or skill nodes such as the 3 berserking nodes below your constitution life nodes, the born to fight node, take an extra accuracy and attack speed node near the templar start etc.

In no situation do you replace blade vortex b/c it generates a large amount of charges for the builds dps and healing.

As far as Culling Strike though yes, ive run that for 3 months on mine, 10% more cyclone speed plus the free 10% on bosses.

Well excuse me all to hell. Yeesh. It's not like it's layed out how to get 4.5 APS. You are no where near 4.5 APS with out some effort. Your tone is a little know-it-all.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Feb 20, 2018, 12:25:58 AM
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DamageIncorporated wrote:
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JCOH35 wrote:
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DamageIncorporated wrote:
I figured out a way to get 4.5 APS. Replace CWDT Blade Vortex with quality Blood Rage. Replace Increased Accuracy in chest with Quality Culling Strike. Devoto's, and a total of 16% IAS on jewels, gets you there.

It means no Righteous Fire though. I'm not sold on it anyway. Another Discharge per second has got to be better.


There are easier and more productive ways, no-one here was trying to figure out how to do it, there were just too many ways and combos to list them for you. You can use any combo of attack speed on jewels or skill nodes such as the 3 berserking nodes below your constitution life nodes, the born to fight node, take an extra accuracy and attack speed node near the templar start etc.

In no situation do you replace blade vortex b/c it generates a large amount of charges for the builds dps and healing.

As far as Culling Strike though yes, ive run that for 3 months on mine, 10% more cyclone speed plus the free 10% on bosses.

Well excuse me all to hell. Yeesh. It's not like it's layed out how to get 4.5 APS. You are no where near 4.5 APS with out some effort. Your tone is a little know-it-all.


You cant exactly get somones tone over the Internet. Like me, Im also often recieved as "know-all-asshole" which Im not :P Anyway no one here is gonna "lay out" everything for you. You were provided with informations and tools so you can do it yourself regarding your gear and tree. However I support JCOH35 opininon on blood rage vs cwdt bv setup. If you're really strugglning for that 4.5+ aps take those berserkering nodes.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Indeed, I took the Berserking nodes. Sucks to think that puts me 3 levels behind though, but I reached 4.5 aps, without using Bloodrage.

He could simply have made the suggestion. No need to be all " no one is trying to get 4.5 aps", when in fact you pretty much have to go out of your way to reach it. I didn't see it called for. I'm glad I settled on a acceptable solution though, and it is valid to point out BV helps PC generation.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Feb 20, 2018, 2:21:16 AM
Your fine, didnt mean anything by it, just didnt want to see you give up Blade Vortex.

Normally everyone would be quicker with replies and a bit more in-depth but its just a slow period near the end of league, people are bored/stressed out over unknown incoming nerfs etc.
Two questions without go back 100+ page.

- Deathdoor vs Inya which one better? I see most of you using Inya.
- Cyclone asp, is it need to be over 4 asp? I current siting on 3.55, isn't CWDT+Blade Vortex help out the power gain on hit?
If I go first, I'll wait for you in the other side of the dark water.

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