[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

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RicoKGB wrote:
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Stalkst3r wrote:
Question regarding the 5 discharge/a sec.

Discharge Cool down .25/sec
-20% belt = .20 or (.21 as far as POB is concerned)

Dose it round down to .20? As in you need a 20% belt to even achieve the 5 discharge/sec or a 15% belt .2125 cool down, will round down and work also?

Or am I totally off and missing the point?


Look like 3 posts above yours...


Sorry I missed it.

I'm just wondering if the game is really adding these? The formula you posted with a 20% belt.

1 / 1.20% = .83

250ms x 0.83 = 207ms

1000ms / 207ms = 4.83 discharge/sec

over 60sec = 289 discharges.

Default 60sec's = 240

So 49 more discharges over 60sec's or it's a flat 60?

Sorry my brain is rambling, and I'm trying to get it to shut up.
1:Dose the game round up? 4.51~5.0 = 5/sec?
2:Is the game exact and count these .83?

3:(Question 1 and 2 kinda together) The terminology(5 Discharge/sec)/image on 1st page is whats throwing me off is it 5 Discharge a sec or 4.83?

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Stalkst3r wrote:


Sorry I missed it.

I'm just wondering if the game is really adding these? The formula you posted with a 20% belt.

1 / 1.20% = .83

250ms x 0.83 = 207ms

1000ms / 207ms = 4.83 discharge/sec

over 60sec = 289 discharges.

Default 60sec's = 240

So 49 more discharges over 60sec's or it's a flat 60?

Sorry my brain is rambling, and I'm trying to get it to shut up.
1:Dose the game round up? 4.51~5.0 = 5/sec?
2:Is the game exact and count these .83?

3:(Question 1 and 2 kinda together) The terminology(5 Discharge/sec)/image on 1st page is whats throwing me off is it 5 Discharge a sec or 4.83?



To my knowledge game engine works with milisecounds. It may round in tooltip like 207ms to 0.21sec but nothing more fancy like 4.51 -> 5.0. So yes within 1min time window you're doing 49 more Discharges with 20% cooldown reduction belt. It translate to a 20% MORE DPS.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Jan 31, 2018, 5:22:54 PM
RicoKGB.

Thanks you SO MUCH!!

I read your comments, changed what had to be changed and finally understood the build's mechanics.

working perfectly fine for now, thank you!!
Thanks for the cool build Rico and for keeping on top of this thread. I wanted to do another character in ASC that was a little different then anything I had done before and this hits the spot. I'm hoping you could take a look at my char though and see what I might be missing, particularly when it comes to bosses (profile should be public - char is ThunderTeet)

I've done up to T10 so far and trash clearing is a breeze. Tanky and feels good. Bosses though, they definitely can cause problems. It feels like it takes too long and that I'm fairly vulnerable. Does the RF setup make that much of a difference for bosses? If so, then that's my problem and I can work on that. But could it be something else?

Are my gem levels the problem? Is it the lack of a shaped spell damage ring? Is my life too low (sitting just under 5.3K). Do I just need to level up a bit more to pick up more charges and more life?

Oh, also wanted to ask about other helms that can be used with the build. Are a Rats nest or Starkonjs viable? They have the attack speed on them and Starks has life. Just curious as those can be found much cheaper with the enchant.

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.
Last edited by EaterOfBabies#6442 on Feb 1, 2018, 9:26:05 AM
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EaterOfBabies wrote:
Thanks for the cool build Rico and for keeping on top of this thread. I wanted to do another character in ASC that was a little different then anything I had done before and this hits the spot. I'm hoping you could take a look at my char though and see what I might be missing, particularly when it comes to bosses (profile should be public - char is ThunderTeet)

I've done up to T10 so far and trash clearing is a breeze. Tanky and feels good. Bosses though, they definitely can cause problems. It feels like it takes too long and that I'm fairly vulnerable. Does the RF setup make that much of a difference for bosses? If so, then that's my problem and I can work on that. But could it be something else?

Are my gem levels the problem? Is it the lack of a shaped spell damage ring? Is my life too low (sitting just under 5.3K). Do I just need to level up a bit more to pick up more charges and more life?

Oh, also wanted to ask about other helms that can be used with the build. Are a Rats nest or Starkonjs viable? They have the attack speed on them and Starks has life. Just curious as those can be found much cheaper with the enchant.

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.


Yes well... endurance charges bro. Grab +2 from tree asap. Remove AoE cluster (Amplify) to make it faster.

Spirit vessel jewel in Duelist area - try to change that for spell dmg one. Crit multi doesnt have an effect on this build.

You can change Controled Destruction for Conc Effect vs bosses. A bit more dps and a bit more crit chance to trigger Elemental Overload more often.

Your life pool is on target, with more lvls you will have more life, you need 5.8 - 6k life at lvl 92.

I would also suggest to change cwdt-curse setup for vengence - curse on hit setup. This way you can have lvl 20/20 curse with lvl 20/20 curse on hit for maximum curse effect.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Thanks Rico. Good feedback.

Any thoughts on this question?

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Oh, also wanted to ask about other helms that can be used with the build. Are a Rats nest or Starkonjs viable? They have the attack speed on them and Starks has life. Just curious as those can be found much cheaper with the enchant.
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EaterOfBabies wrote:
Thanks Rico. Good feedback.

Any thoughts on this question?

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Oh, also wanted to ask about other helms that can be used with the build. Are a Rats nest or Starkonjs viable? They have the attack speed on them and Starks has life. Just curious as those can be found much cheaper with the enchant.


Rats Nest doesnt have usefull stats, but Sarkonya can be a cheap option with life, dex and discharge dmg enchant.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Thanks again Rico. I made some of the changes you mentioned and feels better so far, although I havent tested fully yet.

I even splurged for the only devotos that was for sale with the discharge enchant. Lo and behold, first map I try gives me a Lich and he drops a 2 Abyss socket Lightpoacher! Totally unrelated I know but was fun to see happen.

Now I have to figure out what to sell the darn thing for since I dont care about the ID challenge. Lol. Cheers!
Rico,

I noticed a couple posts above you mentioned that Vengeance/Curse on Hit/Curse does in-fact work for us, I ask b/c I had that setup 2 months ago and several people in the thread told me Vengeance does not/can not proc during cyclone.

Do you know for certain it can, if so ill be switching back to my old link aswell.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Feb 1, 2018, 3:40:19 PM
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JCOH35 wrote:
Rico,

I noticed a couple posts above you mentioned that Vengeance/Curse on Hit/Curse does in-fact work for us, I ask b/c I had that setup 2 months ago and several people in the thread told me Vengeance does not/can not proc during cyclone.

Do you know for certain it can, if so ill be switching back to my old link aswell.


And why it would not work? You can be still hit while cycloning dont you?
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362

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