Three unique weapons being updated for 2.6.0

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SerenaDrake wrote:

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Qarl wrote:

For Discharge specifically, we'd most like to see its primary use as a self-cast skill. We likely won't make any changes in this direction until 3.0.0.

Actually if GGG make Discharge self cast only this will be another huge indirect Mjolner nerf because you can cast all lighting spells faster + 6L vs Mjolner with this cooldown and 3L only.

In the current game state, sure.

But if they remove it from mjollnir, lightning spells can be balanced differently again and so can mjollnir in it's entirety.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

In the current game state, sure.

But if they remove it from mjollnir, lightning spells can be balanced differently again and so can mjollnir in it's entirety.

Peace,

-Boem-

but i dont understand why? just because it piss some people ,because they just dont like Discharge or hate it and even Breaches couse more server lags as discharge and GGG will make breaches as come mechanic. GGG should let Discharge be vor both self cast and trigger but introduce some new unique threshold jewels for self cast discharge only for some better charges generation ,increased damage and AOE something lake that "your charges generation is doubled if you have 50 inteligence in radius" description - Dischagre cannot be triggered if you put this jewel in jewel slot on your skill tree.
My English is bad i know sorry.

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SerenaDrake wrote:

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Boem wrote:

In the current game state, sure.

But if they remove it from mjollnir, lightning spells can be balanced differently again and so can mjollnir in it's entirety.

Peace,

-Boem-

but i dont understand why? just because it piss some people ,because they just dont like Discharge or hate it and even Breaches couse more server lags as discharge and GGG will make breaches as come mechanic. GGG should let Discharge be vor both self cast and trigger but introduce some new unique threshold jewels for self cast discharge only for some better charges generation ,increased damage and AOE something lake that "your charges generation is doubled if you have 50 inteligence in radius" description - Dischagre cannot be triggered if you put this jewel in slot on your skill tree.

Discharge does obscene amounts of damage because it was never implemented into the game with full
auto-charge generation and triggers in mind.

And since this one skill can be utilized with mjollnir, all other lightning skills cannot compete in a mjollnir build, which most likely was never the intention behind mjollnir as a design.

If anything, arc and storm call fit the flavor of mjollnir a lot more, but yeah can't compete with discharge so why go that route?

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Discharge does obscene amounts of damage because it was never implemented into the game with full
auto-charge generation and triggers in mind.

And since this one skill can be utilized with mjollnir, all other lightning skills cannot compete in a mjollnir build, which most likely was never the intention behind mjollnir as a design.

If anything, arc and storm call fit the flavor of mjollnir a lot more, but yeah can't compete with discharge so why go that route?

Peace,

-Boem-

why not combine both? many mjolner build comnibe arc with discharge or ball lighting for better charge generation not any lighting skill should be good for mjolnir like GGG self said not every skill should be good.

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tackle70 wrote:

This is only about a 25% damage increase for my Mjolner build (Rainbownuke) which was one of the highest DPS Mjolner builds possible and which is not viable in 2.5 because it can't do enough damage.

Meaningless. It needed a flat 60% more multiplier to make up for the 60% less multiplier nerf from cooldown change.

Will not be a viable endgame item.

It would actually need 150% more, not 60% more. (60% less is a 0.4 multiplier, so we need to invert that. 4/10 inverted is 10/4 = 2.5 = 150% more)

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zSavage wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

This is only about a 25% damage increase for my Mjolner build (Rainbownuke) which was one of the highest DPS Mjolner builds possible and which is not viable in 2.5 because it can't do enough damage.

Meaningless. It needed a flat 60% more multiplier to make up for the 60% less multiplier nerf from cooldown change.

Will not be a viable endgame item.

It would actually need 150% more, not 60% more. (60% less is a 0.4 multiplier, so we need to invert that. 4/10 inverted is 10/4 = 2.5 = 150% more)

did you think GGG make that move ,they dont make not a single unique in POE history with such huge damage multiplier

I don't think they would give it 150% more damage. But that's what it would need to get back to the usable level of damage it had in 2.4, if the CD is still going to be 0.25s.

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pneuma wrote:

Damn, still not changing Montregul's to "42% reduced number".
I want to dual-wield them and have ONE godzilla zombie, damnit!

For a moment I thought my dreams of a one zombie apocalypse had come true.

Luckily for the world GGG saw through my evil plans.

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zSavage wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

This is only about a 25% damage increase for my Mjolner build (Rainbownuke) which was one of the highest DPS Mjolner builds possible and which is not viable in 2.5 because it can't do enough damage.

Meaningless. It needed a flat 60% more multiplier to make up for the 60% less multiplier nerf from cooldown change.

Will not be a viable endgame item.

It would actually need 150% more, not 60% more. (60% less is a 0.4 multiplier, so we need to invert that. 4/10 inverted is 10/4 = 2.5 = 150% more)

Correct; my mistake. Shows why the item is and will continue to be vendor trash, when it would need a 150% more multiplier to power just T2 builds.

Not vendor trash. I sold one for a skin in Breach for decent $. LOL