General Discussion - Three unique weapons being updated for 2.6.0 - Forum

Thanks for giving Mjolner some love this is one from two builds that keep me playing this game ,thanks GGG Last edited by SerenaDrake#4834 on Feb 27, 2017, 8:46:03 PM	Posted by SerenaDrake#4834 on Feb 27, 2017, 8:11:59 PM Quote this Post
" Aias_o_Telamonios wrote: Mjolner buff is a joke. The buiild's survivability went downhill with the huge cooldown and the slight increase in damage is in no way making up for it. As others have said it's the cooldown that needs to be tweaked not so much the damage. GGG fails again it seems. Ding ding ding. You are correct. Here's the response I got way back when 2.5 was released: " Qarl wrote: The cooldown changes were primarily driven by performance concerns. The change intended was vs the rate of hitting. It was not aimed at Discharge. We realise these uniques are not in the right place after these changes were made. The balance team (a combination of specific designers and QA) was under a reasonable pressure to pick a right answer for 2.5.0 in a short period of time. (For those looking to blame someone, feel free to assign it to me for putting undue time constraints on the balance team.) From here, we may make changes to these uniques in upcoming leagues, or changes related to the mechanics around them. I am not sure exactly when this will occur but it's likely to be in the first half of 2017. However, rebalancing every unique that is associated with a specific build is not something we want to do every three months. While we do make sufficient assessments ahead of time, we can't fully assess what a league's meta-game will look like. (And if we could it would likely mean we haven't made the game interesting enough.) Some item-centric builds will wax and wane with other changes. In some cases we may make the wrong call on changes to specific items. We will not be making any changes to these cooldowns or related values within Breach league. For Discharge specifically, we'd most like to see its primary use as a self-cast skill. We likely won't make any changes in this direction until 3.0.0. Bolded added by me for emphasis here. The 2.6 change alone, without a change to the internal cooldown, is not enough to bring Mjolner out of that bad place. Mjolner lost 60% of its DPS and healing in 2.5. GGG would have to add a 150% MORE spell damage modifier (and probably rebuff juggernaut) to get it back to the barely usuable position it was in 2.4 (IMO which was OK), if the 1/4s CD remains. As Anu and others have said, you can selfcast spells faster, with more damage, than Mjolner can trigger them with less investment on the skilltree and in other gear pieces. Other issue is that the only lightning skill that is even viable on Mjolner is Discharge. TL;DR Mjolner will still be vendor trash in 2.6 UNLESS they are changing the ICD back into the region of 0.1s and haven't told us. Theorycrafter/Build Creator for PORTAL guild @BlightScourge -> guide @ view-thread/1382667 (Retired till Mjolner is fixed) Lvl 94 Crit Mjolner Marauder twitch.tv/savagewolves	Posted by zSavage#0846 on Feb 28, 2017, 1:34:08 AM Quote this Post
" Qarl wrote: For Discharge specifically, we'd most like to see its primary use as a self-cast skill. We likely won't make any changes in this direction until 3.0.0. For fuck's sake, finally! Now they'll be able to set cooldowns to what is needed to have a working Ball Lightning CoC, Spark, Freezing pulse, or whatever you like. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Feb 28, 2017, 4:24:32 AM	Posted by raics#7540 on Feb 28, 2017, 4:23:59 AM Quote this Post
All three looks very interesting! :)	Posted by Frankenberry#0590 on Feb 28, 2017, 5:22:38 AM Quote this Post
Bex is spoiling us. She gets all the cookies today. <3	Posted by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017, 5:25:06 AM
Mjolner either need better buff, or Jugger to be reverted to old End charge gain. Alt Art items as League MTX - When?	Posted by G0rr#5651 on Feb 28, 2017, 5:30:39 AM Quote this Post
omg i love all three<3 "Now all that's left is for you getting on your knees." if you know thank me:) i'm dying to find out x'D	Posted by satanttin#4601 on Feb 28, 2017, 6:02:00 AM Quote this Post
Mjolner "This is a buff!" ^ ^	Posted by Aynix#7757 on Feb 28, 2017, 9:04:06 AM On Probation Quote this Post
This is only about a 25% damage increase for my Mjolner build (Rainbownuke) which was one of the highest DPS Mjolner builds possible and which is not viable in 2.5 because it can't do enough damage. Meaningless. It needed a flat 60% more multiplier to make up for the 60% less multiplier nerf from cooldown change. Will not be a viable endgame item. The 352nd character to hit Level 100 in Standard The 82nd character to hit Delve 1000 in Standard	Posted by tackle70#1293 on Feb 28, 2017, 9:21:44 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" Qarl wrote: For Discharge specifically, we'd most like to see its primary use as a self-cast skill. We likely won't make any changes in this direction until 3.0.0. Actually if GGG make Discharge self cast only this will be another huge indirect Mjolner nerf because you can cast all lighting spells faster + 6L vs Mjolner with this cooldown and 3L only. Last edited by SerenaDrake#4834 on Feb 28, 2017, 9:48:42 AM	Posted by SerenaDrake#4834 on Feb 28, 2017, 9:43:07 AM Quote this Post