Donald Trump and US politics

He isn't socialist, he is a national socialist akin Nazi. It is the ideologies and practices that stem from racism and antisemitism which benefits his own race.

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Jennik wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

Oh look, another non-racist hating on the (((globalists))). How wonderful. What fine, upstanding cultists Trump has. Only the best people.

Prepare to die... of a heart attack brought on by pure raw disgust. I'm kidding, obviously, but you might want to sit down before Googling.

Scrotes, what exactly do you believe I misunderstood there?

Well, if you're not confused about the meaning of said punctuation, theb you're either
1) sincerely indicating that you think globalists are a Jewish conspiracy to control white people, implying that you desire to see "inherently racist" white people persecuted, or
2) ironically referring to globalism as a antisemitic conspiracy theory, implying not only that "globalists" is an antisemitic synonym for "powerful Jews," but that Xav is an antisemite.

2 is more likely, but I don't see you winning either argument.

As far as government control of economy goes: Stalin was communism. Hitler was socialism, contemporary China is socialism. It's actually moderately humorous how similar the status of Chinese corporations relative to their government is to how German corporations were.

As far as left and right go...

People need to understand that "economic left" and "economic right" are misnomers created by the coincidences of American politics in the post-LBJ 20th century under the two-party system. See, the United States was center-right during that time, and two parties divided the centrists as follows: the centrists who placed economic issues first (together with the primarily Christian and therefore confused semiantiauthoritarian right) formed the Republicans, while those who were centrist on social issues (together with semisocialist holdovers from the racist past) composed the Democrats. No party represented those who were socially left at all, as racism against white people was unthinkable outside of fringe circles; simply getting things more centrist at that time, ex: homosexual marriage equality, was a common goal for social centrists and social leftists, under the now-defunct concept of left-libertarianism.

The Bush and Obama presidencies represented a major shift left in rhetoric but not in substance. The concept of anti-white racism practiced by whites themselves began to catch on, creating allies for Blank Panther style pro-minority racism where no previous mainstream support existed. The social left finally broke out of academia and co-opted social centrism aka liberalism. As such the SJW movement represented a fully left-wing rather than center-left movement. This in turn got co-opted by Bush-style neoconservatism which had created a surveillance deep state uniparty stranglehold earlier, but in terms of sales pitch the Democrats shifted left.

This stranded the centrists who both cared more about social issues than economic ones and weren't willfully ignorant of the political left-shift. That's why you've got "former" (actually, current) liberals like Sargon of Akkad and David Rubin "leaving" the left for the apparent comfort of the Trump big-tent; immediately after a political left-shift and the rise of Bush-style globalist corporatism, the neckbeards of the far right are not the authoritarians to be primarily scared of.

But I digress. The point is that "economic right" isn't right-wing, it's centrist and fully consistent with the principles of liberalism. Similarly, "economic left" isn't exclusively left-wing, it's more properly anti-centrist, enjoyed by both the far left and far right. Therefore, it's erroneous to say Hitler was left-wing because of his economic beliefs; everything about Nazism is consistent with far right ideology.

Scrotes, you have to stop with the false dichotomies. "Globalist" is a common antisemitic dog whistle. I'll leave any conclusions about Xav's views drawn from him using antisemitic dog whistles up to you. Personally, I was surprised to see that language coming from him. He's always seemed so tolerant of other races and cultures in the past!

Also, after reading that last post of yours, I'm writing you out of my existence. You remain steadfastly wrong in the face of all evidence. I can't even put a bandaid on whatever's broken inside you. It seems your response to the question I posed BUE is "not a damn thing." I feel sorry for anyone who's fooled by the fact that you're articulate into believing that you're not constantly vomiting forth absurd, counterfactual bullshit.

Like, respect, mebbe little bit of both. From that Alt-Right rag, the Seattle Times:

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Far from Washington, ‘Uncle Trump’ finds fans in China

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/far-from-washington-uncle-trump-finds-fans-in-china/

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As in the United States, Trump can be a polarizing figure in China. He has his share of critics, who mock him as egoistical and erratic, and for fanning the war flames with North Korea. But he also has many ardent supporters, which is perhaps a surprising development for the leader of China’s biggest geopolitical rival.

They refer to him as “Uncle Trump,” “Grand Commander” and “Donald the Strong.” After Trump’s visit to the Forbidden City on Wednesday with President Xi Jinping, one fan wrote on social media, “Long live Emperor Trump!”

I'll take the approbation and acclaim of the whole of the Far East over the UK's snub. =^[.]^=

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Jennik wrote:

BUE, what would change your mind? There are countless sources I could link, but I feel confident you'd just handwave them away as "fake news." What would allow you to accept the fact that you're wrong about this?

If you're able to link original sources and documents based on "un-reworked" historical facts then go for it since it's really good to expand knowledge, but if you're only able to link politically motivated pro-NWO crap published either by NWO orgs or pro-NWO sympathizers then please don't bother.

Other than that there's really no need to change my mind, i also don't want to change yours you're free to believe whatever you want and of course free to study all the sources you want to be able to paint your own world view and i'm okay with it, i'm also neither pro this nor con that in context with the original post, all i say is that all socialist experiments in the past and present (Venezuela for example) have failed miserabely and this is sadly an indisputable fact.

:)

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Jennik wrote:

Scrotes, you have to stop with the false dichotomies. "Globalist" is a common antisemitic dog whistle. I'll leave any conclusions about Xav's views drawn from him using antisemitic dog whistles up to you. Personally, I was surprised to see that language coming from him. He's always seemed so tolerant of other races and cultures in the past!

When you're hearing dog whistles all the time doesn't that mean that you're the dog? Do you want to confess to something? Hating Jews or any people is irrational, my friend.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

Trumplings, set aside whatever batshit insane propaganda you've been gulping down and track down some actual facts. Obama was (and still is) widely respected around the world. Trump is widely reviled.

When libs clinge to the illusion that being POTUS is a worldwide popularity contest.

All their truths are determined by popularity. They dislike Trump, so they pretend to be offended by his "grab 'em" commentary. Yet, they had no qualms with the actions of Bill Clinton, either before or during his presidency.

Meanwhile, we have an endless parade of lefties like Kevin Spacey getting accused of misconduct, and not just talking about it on a tape...
George Takei blasts Kevin Spacey for his actions..
and now we have George Takei being accused of similar misdeeds.

Hypocrisy is the photosynthesis of the left, where they convert lies to truth using the streaming energy of popularity.

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Jennik wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

Scrotes, what exactly do you believe I misunderstood there?

Well, if you're not confused about the meaning of said punctuation, theb you're either
1) sincerely indicating that you think globalists are a Jewish conspiracy to control white people, implying that you desire to see "inherently racist" white people persecuted, or
2) ironically referring to globalism as a antisemitic conspiracy theory, implying not only that "globalists" is an antisemitic synonym for "powerful Jews," but that Xav is an antisemite.

2 is more likely, but I don't see you winning either argument.

Scrotes, you have to stop with the false dichotomies. "Globalist" is a common antisemitic dog whistle. I'll leave any conclusions about Xav's views drawn from him using antisemitic dog whistles up to you. Personally, I was surprised to see that language coming from him. He's always seemed so tolerant of other races and cultures in the past!

So #2 then. How's it a false dichotomy when you choose one?

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Jennik wrote:

Also, after reading that last post of yours, I'm writing you out of my existence. You remain steadfastly wrong in the face of all evidence. I can't even put a bandaid on whatever's broken inside you. It seems your response to the question I posed BUE is "not a damn thing." I feel sorry for anyone who's fooled by the fact that you're articulate into believing that you're not constantly vomiting forth absurd, counterfactual bullshit.

Dude, it's not like I invented the core ideas behind that post myself. What I wrote isn't really a controversial viewpoint, except to those of narrow experience. That, and I agree Hitler is far right. I really don't understand your frustration.

The left isn't being hypocritical any more than the right is. Both sides have their lot of hypocrites. Same with corruption.