[3.4] LL Classic Summoner - Shaper/Elder/Guardian Farmer

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FinestHC wrote:

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Trevorn wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I looked and looked but did not find the answer.

When I try to run purity of fire, haste and discipline in the Prism Guard, it will only let me use two of the auras and says I do not have enough life to run the 3rd. What am I missing in the guide that allows me to run the 3rd life reserve aura?

make sure u pick all the reduced mana reservation nodes on the tree before going full ham and/ or use one of those reduced mana reserved unique jewels.

I took all the mana reserve nodes but cant use last aura

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

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FinestHC wrote:

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Trevorn wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I looked and looked but did not find the answer.

When I try to run purity of fire, haste and discipline in the Prism Guard, it will only let me use two of the auras and says I do not have enough life to run the 3rd. What am I missing in the guide that allows me to run the 3rd life reserve aura?

make sure u pick all the reduced mana reservation nodes on the tree before going full ham and/ or use one of those reduced mana reserved unique jewels.

I took all the mana reserve nodes but cant use last aura

Put Haste in Prism Guardian and Arctic Armour in your generosity link.

thanks =)

Just started to play the build and decided to try it on the yellow constrictor. Summoned fire eaters. The thing is, spectres doesnt attack if im running around the archer, if i stop the archer shoot me and im dying in a few seconds. But if im kiting im ok, but when im kiting spectres doesnt attack. So how to make them attack anyway?

for those that don't know, i didn't, you can get fire eaters in springs map also.

when using flame sentinels only, wouldn't it be better to replace FP/pierce with controlled destruction/fire penetration?

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phatschtuff wrote:

when using flame sentinels only, wouldn't it be better to replace FP/pierce with controlled destruction/fire penetration?

I don't think using fire pen would be useful if you have EE, since the former would be overridden by the latter, w/o even considering elemental weakness.

I haven't used flame sentinels in a while, but with the spectres' firepower, I think controlled destruction is a bit overkill, and faster proj/pierce is really nice. Of course, if you feel their damage is wanting, why not; but in this case, solar guards might be more interesting.

I built my necro after this guide.
currently i have ~ 6200 ES.
To get more ES I need a lot ex ....

Can someone tell me why cannibal fire eaters should be better than the solar guards?

There are many other necro guides in inet, and no one uses the fire eaters.

all run with solar guards.

I've recently got a 6L chest plate. I use 5blue 1 green socket.

I also have replaced Pierce /faster projectiles for controlled destruction.

Thanks Wolf about your guide, doing the first shaper of my life without any death very easy and very cheap build since the meta game is life so Shavronne and ES items are cheap (except for Presence of Chayula).

My build :



My profile is public if someone wants to check it out.

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phatschtuff wrote:

when using flame sentinels only, wouldn't it be better to replace FP/pierce with controlled destruction/fire penetration?

I covered that question in the FaQ section below main post. :)

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Iwonius wrote:

I built my necro after this guide.
currently i have ~ 6200 ES.
To get more ES I need a lot ex ....

Can someone tell me why cannibal fire eaters should be better than the solar guards?

There are many other necro guides in inet, and no one uses the fire eaters.

all run with solar guards.

I've recently got a 6L chest plate. I use 5blue 1 green socket.

I also have replaced Pierce /faster projectiles for controlled destruction.

Fire-Eaters are ofc much worse for clear, for general map clear i use solar guards too - which i state in the guide, you can find my recommended gem setups for many different viable spectre choices, including solar guards. Fire-Eaters however dish out WAY more effective dps against single targets than most if not all other spectres at this point of time. i say "effective" because in theory solar guards might come close to Fire-Eaters, but a lot of their projectiles miss moving targets like shaper, because they fire from a bigger distance, while fire-eaters shoot point blank. Especially when you are still at a 5link you might want that extra dps. Shaper (and everything else) is also doable with solar guards - personally i am usually too lazy to switch to fire-eaters for every shaper run, so i often do it with whatever spectre i use at the time - but if someone is less experienced with the fight and/or has worse gear i'd always recommend going for fire-eaters. after the kill you obviously have a shaper's realm anyway and can summon new T17 solar guards after.

in this guide i try to give the best advise i can to people who maybe have not taken down shaper with a summoner or at all yet, so recommending them to invest an additional 5 minutes to get more optimal spectres for the fight to increase their chance of success seems like the better move to me. you of course do not have to use fire-eaters, but this is why i think they are better than solar guards in some situations.


As mentioned, my opinion on the controlled destruction vs pierce/faster proj topic is in the FaQ section in the post below main post. :)