I've come to realize I really dont like lab, trials and enchant system even one bit

malachai with portals or single take? because zerging him.is in fact pretty easy.. doing it in one go requires the same stuff izaro requires: phys mitigation, level apropriate flasks, fight mechanics understanding and bit of movement speed. izaro is far cleaner fight (no gfx vomit, no mysterious degen circles, no invulnerability phase. one thing malachai has for him is that he can be zerged down.

how many of these cariees were Luck is my Lord 3k no mitigation glasscannos?
I agree will everything, and especially enchant system is bad. Well, incoming traders will say "dont ruin our trading game". Bleh
I'd prefer something like

You don't directly apply, but get to keep the skull.
It can be vendored with a helmet and a skill gem to get one of the possible enchantments for this skill.


3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
Let's be honest you just fail to dodge traps and are frustrated you keep dieing. Labs are a breeze honestly I and never have issues in them personally.

Maybe Izaro hits a bit hard, but dodging him isn't really that hard. You don't die at Vaal a thousand times either right?
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:
Let's be honest you just fail to dodge traps and are frustrated you keep dieing. Labs are a breeze honestly I and never have issues in them personally.

Maybe Izaro hits a bit hard, but dodging him isn't really that hard. You don't die at Vaal a thousand times either right?


Labs are a breeze if you spec for a lab running, and just ignore traps. Traps are not very well designed by doing % damage of your life, cant be evaded or dodged (why?). Izaro is another topic. After i was oneshotted by his melee attack (simple melee attack) on a 2nd phase on lvl 85 with 5.5 k life, i am convinced he is not okay at all.
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Zloberik wrote:
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:
Let's be honest you just fail to dodge traps and are frustrated you keep dieing. Labs are a breeze honestly I and never have issues in them personally.

Maybe Izaro hits a bit hard, but dodging him isn't really that hard. You don't die at Vaal a thousand times either right?


Labs are a breeze if you spec for a lab running, and just ignore traps. Traps are not very well designed by doing % damage of your life, cant be evaded or dodged (why?). Izaro is another topic. After i was oneshotted by his melee attack (simple melee attack) on a 2nd phase on lvl 85 with 5.5 k life, i am convinced he is not okay at all.
Err I've done lab on multiple chars without any problems. Usually I don't spec into some special lab farming spec either.

The problem is that people like you expect every single aspect of the game to be the same. Lab traps are different. Deal with it. They are super easy to avoid if you just pay the slightest second of attention to them.

And I'm going to need a bit more info on the oneshit there. If you're expecting to tank him with 0 defenses I'm not suprised at least.

Besides, his attack is so slow. Were you standing still or something?
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:
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Zloberik wrote:
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:
Let's be honest you just fail to dodge traps and are frustrated you keep dieing. Labs are a breeze honestly I and never have issues in them personally.

Maybe Izaro hits a bit hard, but dodging him isn't really that hard. You don't die at Vaal a thousand times either right?


Labs are a breeze if you spec for a lab running, and just ignore traps. Traps are not very well designed by doing % damage of your life, cant be evaded or dodged (why?). Izaro is another topic. After i was oneshotted by his melee attack (simple melee attack) on a 2nd phase on lvl 85 with 5.5 k life, i am convinced he is not okay at all.
Err I've done lab on multiple chars without any problems. Usually I don't spec into some special lab farming spec either.

The problem is that people like you expect every single aspect of the game to be the same. Lab traps are different. Deal with it. They are super easy to avoid if you just pay the slightest second of attention to them.

And I'm going to need a bit more info on the oneshit there. If you're expecting to tank him with 0 defenses I'm not suprised at least.

Besides, his attack is so slow. Were you standing still or something?


I dont run labs, so i dont need to "deal with traps" at all. THey are not hard, yes. They are annoying and not fun. I never liked Mario games. But developers force me to play it to get my ascendancy points. I hate to being forced into anything. I played berserker BV, so i was virtually invincible unless oneshotted. I would understand if Izaro 1shotted me fully buffed on a last phase. But on 2nd one, with no buffs from the first phase? Hell no. Not right.


fyi: eva builds dont prevent oneshots
fyi2: doedre's elixir? really?
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:


fyi: eva builds dont prevent oneshots
fyi2: doedre's elixir? really?


Yea, they dont. It means they cant run the lab at all? Izaro shouldnt 1shot 5k+ health without buffs, thats it. Doedre is on-demand proc of Cloaked in savagery for 100% leech and +50% damage.
Honestly Traps are easy if:

1. You are CI because you only take 60% damage
2. If you are life based, because instant flasks
3. If you are fast
4. If you have high physical damage reduction
5. If you have Lightning Warp anywhere on your skillbar or even know how to use Flame Dash

Traps might be hard if you are a ES/Life hybrid berserker wearing Abyssus... that is likely the only situation were traps are hard. If you are CI as an occultist you can even stand in most traps because your ES regen starts more often and is faster than trap damage, burning ground might be problematic, but that one isn't too hard with any form of movement skill at all.


I do agree on the Enchants they are kinda shitty, having even just 2 to choose and the option to keep your current enchant would be nice. The best option would be to have one enchant that fits your helmet, another one that does not fit your helmet and the option to keep your current one. On a Dex Helmet you would get Enchants for Dex, Dex/Str and Dex/Int skills while an Armor/ES helmet would get Str, Int, Str/Int and Int/Str skills.

This would essentially give you essentially too similarly big pools and from each pool one enchant is chosen, which wouldn't make enchanting easy, but not as frustrating.

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Izaro is another topic. After i was oneshotted by his melee attack (simple melee attack) on a 2nd phase on lvl 85 with 5.5 k life, i am convinced he is not okay at all.


You should clarifiy if you mean Uber or normal and if he had enchants. Merc Izaro never ever deals 5,5k damage unbuffed. Uber might, I'm not sure but again definitly not his regular melee attack which deals between 2-3k damage on my CI char, which doesn't have any armor or physical mitigation and due to the low amount of crit mult enemies have even a crit doesn't do much. So either he got buffs in the first phase or it wasn't his basic attack.

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Merciless dude. Merciless izaro is harder than any map boss until gorge a 13 map which most people dont even do. I cant count numbet of times ppl asked me to carry them who were already mapping. Thats beating game BTW. Game ends at A4M Mal. And merciless izaro is harder than that.


Merc Izaro is actually the easiest out of all on his level. Of course if you get bad mechanics he can be tough, I usually don't do him with statues or charges, but any of the other things is pretty easy. He is a perfectly telegraphed encounter and as soon as you outreach him, which is even possible with most melee attacks he can't do anything. Malachai on the other hand has a lot more going on, not only does he deal cold in addition to Izaros Fire and Physical (although 90% is physical, only the goddess deals fire damage, and not that much in Merc), he has 3 attacks that can pretty much instantly kill the player and one more in Phase I (which also adds Lightning Damage from Piety). His Teleport, His Flame Trap and even overlapping AoE from his mortars can all oneshot a player, although the trap has to crit to ignite the player. Both fights aren't too hard, you can survive most things with a decently geared char, but when I do them both instantly I'm often more at around 4k HP, because I am not geared and only about lvl68 for Izaro and 70 for Malachai (I usually do Izaro after Piety). And at that point both fights are fairly similar, Izaro is a lot easier than Malachai if you get stuff like Portals and Gargoyles and a lot harder with the annoying stuff.

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