[2.6] CRIT HoWA BF/ST Raider [13k ES, 60k BF/265k GMP ST DPS, Stun-immune] [4 sec Chayula kill]
" Tks for your very clearly answer and advice! I'm still having around 50ex so i think i will trying to find a nice belt for swapping between boss fight and mapping. TYVM, i hope u have a great day! |
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Hey guys,
Keeping up with the build. Looking for my lvl 90+ now. I was wondering : Actually, I have a "good" rare amulet but I'm asking myself if Astramentis (110+) is not actually better for a good all-round solution. What is the "cap" where Astra is out-stuffed by another rare amulet ? I'm currently just sub 1000 intel (989) and considering going for Astramentis for more ES/Lightning damage/Attack Speed (with agi). I see people going for Shaper Touch too and maybe it's finally a cheaper way to have a good balance between offence and defense with the gloves bonuses. Farming my way through a 6L Vaal Regalia first anyway (and badly need Vinktar too, looted my first exalt yesterday yay). But considering we don't need accuracy anymore thanks to Shaper Touch, we can respec skill points into more DPS/ES. What's your opinion on this ? Last edited by skyoan32 on Apr 11, 2017, 5:13:12 AM
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" Astramentis + Shaper's Touch is definitely a good choice until pretty late. It's only outclassed by rares when you can find enough Accuracy to get to ~90% hit rate on other gear that also has other strong properties such as solid ES, resists, WED, Crit Multi etc. For instance on my gear, if I were hypothetically able to swap out my gloves and amulet for Astra / Shaper's Touch and spec'd out of Acuity I do gain a good chunk of DPS but it would be an enormous pain for me to get the lightning resist back. The compromises I'd need to make on my rings to make that work (or running HoT and PoL instead of Wrath) would likely negate the benefit of using Shaper's Touch and Astra. Last edited by SorakPoE on Apr 11, 2017, 8:25:06 AM
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Hi i would like to try play this build in LHC but i only got 3ex budget at the moment is that enough to get me starting? And im talking about ST i build i really wanna try it out since in ever played one and maybe you could make a skilltree how it would look like for lvl 70 where is taken all the mandatory nodes for build to work including CI?
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" I just finished leveling and had the same issues. My absolute best friend was the thiefs torment ring. Gives you a bunch of health and mana on HIT. I never had a single issue while leveling with this ring on. I was very low health as well and as long as I kept hitting the target, I wouldn't die. It gets tricky with resists not being able to use 2 rings but I still had a very easy time. | |
" > What jewels do I get instead then? http://poe.trade/search/rimohaurotonar Use the above POE search to look for jewels. If the jewels shown are too expensive for you, change the second "count" group button to 1. > Can you advice me a unique armor to level with? If you're not CI yet, Tabula Rasa is fine until you switch. I stuck with Tabula until level 68 when I got a 6-link Vaal Regalia, which I got using 7 "The Ethereal" cards and then did a bit of chaos spam for decent stats. Note - if you use Tabula, you'll want to temporarily spec into life nodes and get life on gear. > And last question, Spectral throw eat all my mana Spec into some mana leech nodes (on the way towards Unwavering Stance). Until you get those nodes, running clarity helps a lot as do Elreon rings. But as other posters have mentioned, Thieve's Torment is a good choice too. Last edited by hankinsohl on Apr 11, 2017, 9:34:49 AM
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" Uh - neither Blade Flurry or Spectral Throw are Lightning or Elemental skills, so the crit multi for those skills in your search wouldn't apply unless I'm missing something, as far as I know? | |
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I have one more question! Sorry if annoying but I cant get enough of this build lately it's very fun. We are using in our 6l elemental focus support. This of course increases our base damage by quite a lot, but, as you mentioned we cannot inflict status ailments on enemies.
Now, because we are crit focused AND lightning focused, wouldn't being able to shock the target be so much better? (increases damage of all sources by 50%) I'm not good at crunching the numbers and am not sure if someone else has. I have been testing both gems a lot and do have to say if you are going the skyforth route, it seems much better using the crit multi gem instead so you crit harder AND can shock. Even mapping and killing bosses once your power charges are up feels way way faster. I could see if you don't have skyforth though it not being better. Using the orb of storms combo does generate them, but much slower. Am I crazy or would this be correct? Skyforth = use crit multi not ele focus. Also with skyforth we don't need to use a full 4link that you recommend. I'm trying to figure out what to use instead. Last edited by coaa on Apr 11, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
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" I can't really speak to the effectiveness with Skyforth since I've never tried that, but in general the thinking is: 1) Against trash mobs - shocking is irrelevant since they die almost instantly anyway 2) Against normal map bosses or occasional higher HP targets like Warbands Leaders - you pop Vinktar to shock them and they will die within the duration of Vinktar, so you don't need to shock with your hits 3) Against Guardians, you will never do enough damage in one hit to shock them so there's no point in trying Once you have ~400 crit multi already, no matter how high your crit chance is you will do more damage with Ele Focus than ICD if you take away shock. ICD gives you at most 25% more damage if you have 100% effective crit chance, whereas Ele Focus gives you 50% more. | |
" This build does so much damage that shocking map mobs isn't very important - maybe it would help running breach maps I guess. If you could shock bosses that would be great - but you cannot shock the toughest bosses with our main skill because shock duration isn't long enough. The Vinktar's flask at least gives you shock every so often against bosses, but other than that, and maybe Vaal Lightning Trap, should you choose to use it - you won't be able to shock bosses. And, unfortunately, some bosses are immune to shock (Shaper, Atziri, etc.). ======== Possible stuff for the gem slots freed up by using Skyforth: Ancestral Protector Vaal Lightning Trap Portal Maybe a curse on hit setup with Ancestral Protector Maybe a culling-strike setup with Ancestral Protector - perhaps incorporating magic find Vaal Haste (use Increased Duration with this) Vaal Discipline (ditto ID) etc. ========== Edit - Ninja'ed by SorakPoE (who makes very good points in his/her post). I need to type faster! Last edited by hankinsohl on Apr 11, 2017, 11:19:33 AM
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