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psykh3 wrote:
Is this still working on legacy? my friend built this, got all the gear (even bought the first helm with enchant on the league), got to 80 something and said he can't even one shot uber izaro phases. Besides that, he says he dies for shit because of stuns, as the build don't have any form of immunity besides occultist's can't be stunned on full ES. His tooltip is 3.9k with inc aoe on a 6L.
We played bladefall mines back in the day and he said it doesn't come close to it's damage.
I was suspicious when he said all that, seeing your videos, but I asked him for every bit of gear that gives damage and he said he bought it already (flasks, jewels, rings with chaos damage, helm enchant, 6L, everything).
I was leveling this build too but now i'm in doubt. Can someone confirm this still works? How does the build go with medium gear (not maxed out but with okay gear)?
Also, I think Incandescent Heart could be a good replacement for Infernal Mantle, because it now has 353 ES, you can use discipline because you can now be in low mana, it gives 20% of elemental damage as extra chaos damage, and the 25% of elemental damage taken as chaos damage is just OP as a CI character, even more for shaper that does mostly elemental damage.
You said you are doing the build as a league starter too. How is it going?
I built this on standard before trying it on the league both CI & LL version I had 0 issues the damage was there my gems are lvls 18-20, like that other guy said get a chayula the fact your friend didn't have one shows he is just bad and spends $$$ on orbs.
He bought chayula after dying a lot, but didn't like the idea of losing amulet slot anyway. He is a great player, has a lot of free time and knows how to flip items early in the league, besides an exalted drop which is huge for a flipper. Why attack people saying bad things about them without knowing shit?
Cause before you bring this up you should atleast let him link his gear so we can tell him why he isn't one-shotting uber izaro while I can one-shot shaper.
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Posted byWorst_luck#4486on Mar 6, 2017, 3:28:51 PM
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Stuns is annoying, just use eye of chayula. Worth every penny.
P.S. I don't think it can be true with good gear that he can't one shot izaro phase. Maybe it just that thing about izaro, when you kill him too fast and he will be still active for about 10 sec. It is always so with high damage build. How is it in the last phase?
Also, maybe he can just open his character here, and we will take a look at his build/gear/etc
He got mad because he died 5 times before he could kill uber izaro, and sold all items to build a HoWA character.
I tought the same, it's odd that he couldn't one shot him with good gear, altrough he wasn't using infernal mantle, it was just a generic 6L regalia.
I can feel the damage already with only a 5L, no infernal mantle, lvl 18 gems, lvl 70. Voll gets one shotted if 9 mines placed, if it crits I don't even need the poison damage, just the mine damage kills him.
How do you get enough dex with Chayula? I got a +30 dex node but I still struggle.
I'm still not on my final gear, so, i just have 30+ dex on random boots. Later, i guess i can craft it on gloves or something if really strive for it.
In time i'll definitely went LL, so slot for presence of chayula is absolute, there is no way around it in LL.
About damage - exactly my thought. I just run around and kill everything with 4l fire nova. Damage is great even without poison shenaningans.
But poison itself is double-dipping magic. Double dipping is only cool, when you stacked enough to be worth it, but then it will rise in geometric progression.
I bought an Incandescent Heart and 5Linked it, seems pretty good and a nice replacement for infernal mantle - that way I don't get the 100% increased damage taken on low mana, which I really dislike, plus I get free 25% ele damage reduction because CI, which I find really nice.
I did merc lab, it was fine, but I needed 2 full explosions (9 mines placed twice) per phase to kill him, with a 5L. No atziri's flask neither witchfire brew, level 18 gems, no jewels (which is huge for double-dipping). Well, I will keep going to see where it gets, but it seems fine.
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Posted bypsykh3#7503on Mar 6, 2017, 3:31:22 PM
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I bought an Incandescent Heart and 5Linked it, seems pretty good and a nice replacement for infernal mantle - that way I don't get the 100% increased damage taken on low mana, which I really dislike, plus I get free 25% ele damage reduction because CI, which I find really nice.
I did merc lab, it was fine, but I needed 2 full explosions (9 mines placed twice) per phase to kill him, with a 5L. No atziri's flask neither witchfire brew, level 18 gems, no jewels (which is huge for double-dipping). Well, I will keep going to see where it gets, but it seems fine.
Helm enchant too. I did uber lab at around 78 I think without the helm enchant. Incandescent heart is nice for mitigation, but the main reason I use mantle is for the dps boost from +1 gems , crit, & fire damage. It's not too difficult to stay above 30% mana if you use healthy mind and have decent mana on gear/tree.
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Posted byWorst_luck#4486on Mar 6, 2017, 3:34:30 PM
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psykh3 wrote:
I bought an Incandescent Heart and 5Linked it, seems pretty good and a nice replacement for infernal mantle - that way I don't get the 100% increased damage taken on low mana, which I really dislike, plus I get free 25% ele damage reduction because CI, which I find really nice.
I did merc lab, it was fine, but I needed 2 full explosions (9 mines placed twice) per phase to kill him, with a 5L. No atziri's flask neither witchfire brew, level 18 gems, no jewels (which is huge for double-dipping). Well, I will keep going to see where it gets, but it seems fine.
Helm enchant too. I did uber lab at around 78 I think without the helm enchant. Incandescent heart is nice for mitigation, but the main reason I use mantle is for the dps boost from +1 gems , crit, & fire damage. It's not too difficult to stay above 30% mana if you use healthy mind and have decent mana on gear/tree.
Yeah I know, I'm just lazy. I'll try it after I get some currency and see if I can not die using it.
How much ES did you have when you did uber lab? You don't use discipline because of low mana + infernal mantle, right?
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Posted bypsykh3#7503on Mar 6, 2017, 3:41:51 PM
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psykh3 wrote:
I bought an Incandescent Heart and 5Linked it, seems pretty good and a nice replacement for infernal mantle - that way I don't get the 100% increased damage taken on low mana, which I really dislike, plus I get free 25% ele damage reduction because CI, which I find really nice.
I did merc lab, it was fine, but I needed 2 full explosions (9 mines placed twice) per phase to kill him, with a 5L. No atziri's flask neither witchfire brew, level 18 gems, no jewels (which is huge for double-dipping). Well, I will keep going to see where it gets, but it seems fine.
Helm enchant too. I did uber lab at around 78 I think without the helm enchant. Incandescent heart is nice for mitigation, but the main reason I use mantle is for the dps boost from +1 gems , crit, & fire damage. It's not too difficult to stay above 30% mana if you use healthy mind and have decent mana on gear/tree.
Yeah I know, I'm just lazy. I'll try it after I get some currency and see if I can not die using it.
How much ES did you have when you did uber lab? You don't use discipline because of low mana + infernal mantle, right?
Not sure how much ES I had, I just try not to get hit by his cleave/smash since it probably one-shots you if you're below 6.5k ES
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Posted byWorst_luck#4486on Mar 6, 2017, 4:02:32 PM
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Currently running something equal to this. Made a few changes in regards to survivability. I'm currently changimg blasphemy to discipline and run my enfeeble on Orb of Storms together with Curse on Hit and PCoC. This leaves me with more es and not so many high hits from Izaro. Gonna have to test Uber Lab in a bit, but should be fine (merciless is atleast)
Edit: Level 80 atm with 7.2k ES with discipline.
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Posted byaPanther#4016on Mar 6, 2017, 5:55:30 PM
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Currently running something equal to this. Made a few changes in regards to survivability. I'm currently changimg blasphemy to discipline and run my enfeeble on Orb of Storms together with Curse on Hit and PCoC. This leaves me with more es and not so many high hits from Izaro. Gonna have to test Uber Lab in a bit, but should be fine (merciless is atleast)
Edit: Level 80 atm with 7.2k ES with discipline.
If you want my advice i'd swap out enfeeble for TC. It allows your poison to last much longer giving you a lot more dps, it's also better for bosses because even with less curse effectiveness, they are still slow. Uber izaro won't one-shot you at that ES if you have basalt up.
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Posted byWorst_luck#4486on Mar 6, 2017, 6:21:32 PM
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psykh3 wrote:
Is this still working on legacy? my friend built this, got all the gear (even bought the first helm with enchant on the league), got to 80 something and said he can't even one shot uber izaro phases. Besides that, he says he dies for shit because of stuns, as the build don't have any form of immunity besides occultist's can't be stunned on full ES. His tooltip is 3.9k with inc aoe on a 6L.
We played bladefall mines back in the day and he said it doesn't come close to it's damage.
I was suspicious when he said all that, seeing your videos, but I asked him for every bit of gear that gives damage and he said he bought it already (flasks, jewels, rings with chaos damage, helm enchant, 6L, everything).
I was leveling this build too but now i'm in doubt. Can someone confirm this still works? How does the build go with medium gear (not maxed out but with okay gear)?
Also, I think Incandescent Heart could be a good replacement for Infernal Mantle, because it now has 353 ES, you can use discipline because you can now be in low mana, it gives 20% of elemental damage as extra chaos damage, and the 25% of elemental damage taken as chaos damage is just OP as a CI character, even more for shaper that does mostly elemental damage.
You said you are doing the build as a league starter too. How is it going?
I built this on standard before trying it on the league both CI & LL version I had 0 issues the damage was there my gems are lvls 18-20, like that other guy said get a chayula the fact your friend didn't have one shows he is just bad and spends $$$ on orbs.
He bought chayula after dying a lot, but didn't like the idea of losing amulet slot anyway. He is a great player, has a lot of free time and knows how to flip items early in the league, besides an exalted drop which is huge for a flipper. Why attack people saying bad things about them without knowing shit?
You are right I shouldn't have said those things, besides all that he should try the LL version if he can get a shavs that's what I'm hoping to do sometime this league if I can get a shavs.
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Posted bytravisiscool#0524on Mar 6, 2017, 7:30:33 PM
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how do you manage all those activable spells? they dont even fit into the hotbar and together with all the flasks, I end up just smashing all buttons hoping that I survive lol
my setup:
LMB-movement
MMB-golem (he dies so often that i would go mental if i had to switch it everytime)
RMB-detonate
Q-FNM
W-vaal disci
E-whirling blades
R-vaal clari
T-wither totem/temp chains
there is no room for orb of storms
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Posted bymatesasd#2264on Mar 6, 2017, 8:54:29 PM
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how do you manage all those activable spells? they dont even fit into the hotbar and together with all the flasks, I end up just smashing all buttons hoping that I survive lol
my setup:
LMB-movement
MMB-golem (he dies so often that i would go mental if i had to switch it everytime)
RMB-detonate
Q-FNM
W-vaal disci
E-whirling blades
R-vaal clari
T-wither totem/temp chains
there is no room for orb of storms
Put golem on left click, that makes it act like move only and summon the golem when you shift click.
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Posted byGreen9090#0803on Mar 6, 2017, 10:04:29 PM
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