[2.5] CI Witch Scorching Ray CWC Whispering Ice - Version 2.0 Released - Now with more damage!
Something went wrong with my post.. got a blank one, don't know what happend. Don't worry I didn't think you forgot, even if you did you do one hell of a job answering all of the questions.
This is my gear i have 4 end charges and 9870 ES, IS damage buffed is over 7000
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Hi, Minotaur down!super excited. pretty easy, one death, I could have avoided that if I flame dashed a little, but still amazing I facetanked him to the 10% of health when he went crazy and killed me:) doesn't matter, I play softcore anyways. Did it with the "old" build, not sure about ditching shaper of desolation.. gonna think about it. cause it seems a lot of casting with orb of storms and lightning trap.. and what I love the most about the build is the cwdt-ball lightning-curse thing, even though at first i used Orb of storms..
But back to my question, i already made a post but it got forgotten :)
i seem to have "slow" clear speed on breachlord maps, timer wont go up. and i'm constantly on quicksilvers running and casting to clear the way.. can't make it through.. how did you make it work?
I've cleared 4/5 of the breachlords, and considering you've cleared minotaur, I'm not sure why you're unable to clear trash in the breaches. It may or may not be a DPS issue, I can't say for sure. Perhaps you can try flame dashing into a bunch of mobs then clearing them all before moving on. So far I've not had problems clearing trash in the breaches I've done (all except chayula). Maybe if you post your gear and stats, it'd be easier to identify the problem.
P.S. Congrats on minotaur kill! Still looking forward to a minotaur kill of my own :P
I have not faced any issues either with breaches, I would need a skill tree and gear links to identify the issue here, it may be because of your playstyle? All the help I can give you is to look at my xoph video to see how I cleared it and kept the timer up. Tul and Esh was exactly the same as my xoph video.
I have yet to clear uul-netol and Chayula.
I hadn't forgotten your question, but as stated in my previous posts, I am very low on time currently, so I wanted to focus on updating my guide currently, and answer questions later when I had some free time.
Hi, Minotaur down!super excited. pretty easy, one death, I could have avoided that if I flame dashed a little, but still amazing I facetanked him to the 10% of health when he went crazy and killed me:) doesn't matter, I play softcore anyways. Did it with the "old" build, not sure about ditching shaper of desolation.. gonna think about it. cause it seems a lot of casting with orb of storms and lightning trap.. and what I love the most about the build is the cwdt-ball lightning-curse thing, even though at first i used Orb of storms..
But back to my question, i already made a post but it got forgotten :)
i seem to have "slow" clear speed on breachlord maps, timer wont go up. and i'm constantly on quicksilvers running and casting to clear the way.. can't make it through.. how did you make it work?
I've cleared 4/5 of the breachlords, and considering you've cleared minotaur, I'm not sure why you're unable to clear trash in the breaches. It may or may not be a DPS issue, I can't say for sure. Perhaps you can try flame dashing into a bunch of mobs then clearing them all before moving on. So far I've not had problems clearing trash in the breaches I've done (all except chayula). Maybe if you post your gear and stats, it'd be easier to identify the problem.
P.S. Congrats on minotaur kill! Still looking forward to a minotaur kill of my own :P
I have not faced any issues either with breaches, I would need a skill tree and gear links to identify the issue here, it may be because of your playstyle? All the help I can give you is to look at my xoph video to see how I cleared it and kept the timer up. Tul and Esh was exactly the same as my xoph video.
I have yet to clear uul-netol and Chayula.
I hadn't forgotten your question, but as stated in my previous posts, I am very low on time currently, so I wanted to focus on updating my guide currently, and answer questions later when I had some free time.
I answered to you guys up in a post, don't know what happend, first it was a blank post then it came before yours.. weird. anyways thanks
I currently don't have any offensive flasks so nothing there, but on your main post you say your 4.3k tooltip is without flasks or elemental conflux (also, isn't elemental conflux the "always ignite/shock/chill" buff ? it doesn't affect tootltip does it ? are you thinking about elemental overload ?)
Compared to your level 72 gear I'm just skipping some int and jewels to get vaal pact, but with pendulum and golems up, i'm at 3.3k tooltip, so i'm missing 30% (i'm dumb about the previous 60%, my bad) damage which i doubt could come solely from jewel slots and 50 int...
You gear definitly looks fine, all the things I can see that would change the dps outcome by the 30 % is
0 int of belt and the changes in the skill tree, other than that I am clueless sorry.
Btw, why did you take mana notes in the beginning of witch instead of the ES?
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Camaron wrote:
Hi, first thx for the build , gona try it on HC breach league
Just a few questions, how does build compare to legasis masterpiece build?
Asking cuz I play HC only and shield really helps with ES
OR using this build but with a 6L chest and use firestorm instead of whispering ice?
Ty
I currently dont have the time to do build comparisons sorry, but if you want to use firestorm I would recommend a +3 fire staff instead of a chest to it.
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Saerah wrote:
well i tried minatour just now and got 1 shot few times by the bull, stand no chance at all, but this is my first time attempt guardians though, maybe don't really understand the fights yet :(
alright i have question on black sun crest vs hubric helm, which is better and whats your suggestions on that?
Edit: another question, i have took the celestial judgement, should i go for celestial punishment as well? is it worth to have so much fire penetration?
Yea the bull is a hard hitter, gotta be careful on that guy :( But when you learn his mechanics he becomes pretty easy (unless he is deathly modded), I have taken him down twice now.
Black sun vs hubric helmet was answered on page 27 by Falagar112
Celestial punishment provides no penetration, are you thinking about judgements flat pen?
Something went wrong with my post.. got a blank one, don't know what happend. Don't worry I didn't think you forgot, even if you did you do one hell of a job answering all of the questions.
This is my gear i have 4 end charges and 9870 ES, IS damage buffed is over 7000
Your gear looks pretty good! My first upgrades in your gear would be swapping the gloves and helmet with something that had int on, this should be a pretty neat damage upgrade.
Also your two stone ring can be enchanted, since it only has 4 affixes.
And thanks for understanding!
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dsimek11 wrote:
I answered to you guys up in a post, don't know what happend, first it was a blank post then it came before yours.. weird. anyways thanks
Yea, the forum might have bugged out, I saw your blank post and was like, (?).
Congrats on your deathless Minotaur run...damn, that was quick. I look forward to seeing you take out the Shaper. :)
Thanks mate! I can't wait to beat up shaper myself.
I just downed Hydra yesterday (this one was a little more tricky than minotaur in my opinion), yet I managed. Sadly I my OBS decided to mess up and not record (probably my own fault), but I will try to get hold of another hydra map. Only 2 more guardians to go!
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dein0s wrote:
Played fine with this build in BHC. Few things literally can kill you - either one shot or game f****g freeze. Died @ 87 due to owerwhelming Tul's Breach with Tul himself and "allies cannot die" aura cos of lags :|
Definetly gona make it again, most enjoyable build so far in this league for me.
Ouch :( sad that you died, but you made it pretty far! I am glad you enjoyed my build, keep up the good work and stay safe!
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MrPeetree wrote:
Found this awesome build a few days after you made the post for it.
Thanks so much for it and love all the thought that went into it all
currently level 80 and having the most fun since I first started when Poe went public
Current gear
Still can improve my boots and gloves but having so much fun and want to say thanks
I am the one who should thank you all for taking the time to play my build! I am just glad that people enjoy it.
update on this, i get the kill the bull by doing only face tanking, after swapping into CwdT Immortal call :)
about flask: why do you choose atriz's promise? what do you think about vinktar or taste of hate?
I choose atziri's promise because it is a really cheap 1 c flask :p! That's pretty much it, and it is a nice damage modifier.
I am not sure about vinktar, since it shocks yourself also as far as I know? It would be pretty risky.
Taste of hate only benefits us with 20 % converted phys to cold damage, so a 15 % less phys damage taken flask (after calculating the cold resist). Nothing a good old granite or basalt flask can't give us.
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Archybild wrote:
Started it yesterday, fell in love with it right away. Thanks a lot for crafting and writing this build in a textook style.
My pleasure! Glad you enjoy it.
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Sylothix wrote:
Hi OP, very fun build and some of the most fun I've had in the game in a while.
What's your (and everyone else's) thoughts on including an Emberwake for stacking ignites with Icestorm. I know that its a very big decrease on the damage done by Scorching Ray but I'm wondering if its worth it.
I tried emberwake for a little while, and honestly I was disappointed by it. Definitly not needed for this build.
Something went wrong with my post.. got a blank one, don't know what happend. Don't worry I didn't think you forgot, even if you did you do one hell of a job answering all of the questions.
This is my gear i have 4 end charges and 9870 ES, IS damage buffed is over 7000
Your gear looks pretty good! My first upgrades in your gear would be swapping the gloves and helmet with something that had int on, this should be a pretty neat damage upgrade.
Also your two stone ring can be enchanted, since it only has 4 affixes.
And thanks for understanding!
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dsimek11 wrote:
I answered to you guys up in a post, don't know what happend, first it was a blank post then it came before yours.. weird. anyways thanks
Yea, the forum might have bugged out, I saw your blank post and was like, (?).
Yep I know I should change helm and gloves, but currently it's to expensive. and what ring enchantment do you recommend? And I just wanna say, I've never been this far in the game, that tells you what a build you have here. how are other guardians compared to Mino? he fell pretty easy but I knew his mechanics
This is the build i've been looking for, its amazing, great fun.
Just into cruel, the norm Malachai kill was the fastest i've ever done with just WI>CWC>Scorch.
Showed it to a friend and now we are both playing it :)
Tyvm.
Ahah, I can imagine the FPS trouble with two of these running together, must be fun as hell tho'.
Glad you enjoy it!
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CNwhitenight wrote:
Thank you OP and others who replied to this thread. I am doing very well in my first WI character.I have a few questions regarding the build that is not discussed on the first page.
1. If I want to remove my concern on Stun. Can I use heart of oak cluster + essence of scorn crafted glove + Leo crafted helmet to achieve stun immune? Is this a better option than travelling to US?
2. Do you we rely on flasks when things can freeze us?
3. I obtained two Elreon jews (a ring and a 70 int amulet) to make mana cost to 0, is this sufficient reason to drop my WM curse and replace it by Temp Chain?
4. How do we deal with no leech map?
Thanks.
- Essence of scorn is a really need glove enchant, I didn't even know that existed.
If you got a really nice pair of +int gloves with that essence and the oak cluster, you should be more than fine in my opinion, especially if you are still running practical application.
- Yes flask is our only means of anti freeze
- Reducing your mana cost is always good for 0 regen maps, not necessary, but good. I would never drop warlords mark due to the endurance charges/life leech from it.
- No leech map? Do you mean 0 regen maps? If yes, then it's pretty easy, you bring a mana flask, and leech from warlords mark. (You can remove arctic armour for a more comfortable mana pool).
If the map also is hexproof, remove warlords mark instead of arctic armour, and you have plenty of mana and then bring a mana flask ofc, since you can't mana leech back.
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PiedPiper11 wrote:
So, I've been working on a shadow build that was pretty similar to this. Had planned on going Trickster with it which should make it pretty tanky.
Any input on how this build would work with other classes/ascend?
I have no imput yet to other ascendencies sorry, only thing I can say so far is that templar might be the 2nd best choice (inquisitor).
Yep I know I should change helm and gloves, but currently it's to expensive. and what ring enchantment do you recommend? And I just wanna say, I've never been this far in the game, that tells you what a build you have here. how are other guardians compared to Mino? he fell pretty easy but I knew his mechanics
I have only killed hydra besides Mino so far, he was a bit toughter than Mino. He keeps moving around and such.
I was cursed temp chains and vulnerability, but still managed to get him. Can't wait to face the others!
