[2.5] CI Witch Scorching Ray CWC Whispering Ice - Version 2.0 Released - Now with more damage!

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Mathoddie wrote:
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DirtyDot wrote:

Do you even have any facts or calculations on why his build is better than mine, or are you just a clueless fanboy here to agitate?


That's very funny coming from a person who doesn't understand some very basic game mechanics.
Fine, since you are not only ignorant but also arrogant at the same time, I am not going to waste any more time pointing out your mistakes.
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DirtyDot wrote:
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Mathoddie wrote:
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DirtyDot wrote:

Do you even have any facts or calculations on why his build is better than mine, or are you just a clueless fanboy here to agitate?


That's very funny coming from a person who doesn't understand some very basic game mechanics.
Fine, since you are not only ignorant but also arrogant at the same time, I am not going to waste any more time pointing out your mistakes.


I think you messed up some of your quoting (the names are swapped).
Nonetheless you call me ignorant? Please tell me where I was wrong, and provide some facts behind it.
And ofcourse I come out as arrogant after such a provoking message.

Spoiler
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DirtyDot wrote:
You do realise that you get ignites from icestorm without the shaper of desolation, don't you? And that celestial punishment is increased damage and not more damage? I wonder how much longer it is going to take you to understand that you should have just copied Kelvynn's tree, swap two gems for sr+cwc and call it a day.


Hi. Thanks for the build.
About leveling without life nodes. Did you die while leveling at least once? Not in the breaches. I'm playing HC but I really don't like to respec. I understand it's different for every single person but is it possible at least?
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EmeraldEyed wrote:
Hi. Thanks for the build.
About leveling without life nodes. Did you die while leveling at least once? Not in the breaches. I'm playing HC but I really don't like to respec. I understand it's different for every single person but is it possible at least?


Hey! No problem.
I had no trouble levelling and I did not die at all, but it really depends if you get some hybrid es/Life gear or if you're running around on your first char grabbing everything that drops on the ground.
If you have 0 currency, you might want to take a few life notes along the way, getting respec points from quests should be sufficient to respec out of it.
If you have some currency, you can easily get good enough gear for 1 alch-1 chaos a piece to get you through levelling like a breeze.

As far as I have heard from people in the comments, levelling have been easy for them also.
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Mathoddie wrote:

Hey! No problem.
I had no trouble levelling and I did not die at all, but it really depends if you get some hybrid es/Life gear or if you're running around on your first char grabbing everything that drops on the ground.
If you have 0 currency, you might want to take a few life notes along the way, getting respec points from quests should be sufficient to respec out of it.
If you have some currency, you can easily get good enough gear for 1 alch-1 chaos a piece to get you through levelling like a breeze.

As far as I have heard from people in the comments, levelling have been easy for them also.

Nice. I do have currency, so I'll try then.
Thanks for the answer :)
Hey bro, i have some question about modifieng your build a little, like doing a critical variant. We can add some nice itens such as voidbringer and others.

Here is the tree that I tought.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAAPuBUINfA3RDkgQWBEPES8RUBGWEzUV1xekGGoabBqBGyUc3B0UHU8dvh_HKPopTyoLKjgqjSsKK3gsnCymLL8tHy2LM4c0CjW5Ntg3ZjlSOw1BlkZxSRtLrlAwUXRWY1fJWAdca13yX2pfsGNDZJ1remu3bRlvnnBSdwd_xoKbgseDCYRIhMWFfYauhxOHZYnTjDaMdo5kjxqPRo_6kNaQ-pMnlSCboZu1nKSdrp48oS-io6aZpwinK6yYr5u0DLb6uJO-isHFwfPDOsNtyL_KSsrT0NDQ9dQH1abZW9te3I3fbd-K37DjhOQi6QLquuvu6_XsGOw47FXv6_DV8WzyHfem99c=

We can generate power charges with orb of storms + power charge on critical. Or maybe changing even further and going occultist with some nasty Energy shield bonus and with a nice crit node. What you think ?
Would it be a good ideia ? Is there something bad ? What would would be the pros/cons ?

Ty buddy!
Last edited by Sygion#2340 on Dec 16, 2016, 2:27:52 AM
Hey Mathoddie,

don't get yourself too worked up with haters...
your build seems very innovative, interesting and solid.
i'm playing selffound since poe beta and WI ist the first build which carried me to t13 maps at all ( even using IIR and IIQ in the staff, using the Standard WI build as Inquisitor).

But your build seems that great, i spent every free Minute at work since monday to read the Posts, theorycrafting and thinking about playing your version as well. I'll definitely give it a try at the Weekend.
idk if it works as i hope for, but thanks for inspiring me and so many other ppl.

Keep it up and enjoy it!

THANKS for this build :)
Last edited by Centhron#1213 on Dec 16, 2016, 7:21:24 AM
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Sygion wrote:
Hey bro, i have some question about modifieng your build a little, like doing a critical variant. We can add some nice itens such as voidbringer and others.

Here is the tree that I tought.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAAPuBUINfA3RDkgQWBEPES8RUBGWEzUV1xekGGoabBqBGyUc3B0UHU8dvh_HKPopTyoLKjgqjSsKK3gsnCymLL8tHy2LM4c0CjW5Ntg3ZjlSOw1BlkZxSRtLrlAwUXRWY1fJWAdca13yX2pfsGNDZJ1remu3bRlvnnBSdwd_xoKbgseDCYRIhMWFfYauhxOHZYnTjDaMdo5kjxqPRo_6kNaQ-pMnlSCboZu1nKSdrp48oS-io6aZpwinK6yYr5u0DLb6uJO-isHFwfPDOsNtyL_KSsrT0NDQ9dQH1abZW9te3I3fbd-K37DjhOQi6QLquuvu6_XsGOw47FXv6_DV8WzyHfem99c=

We can generate power charges with orb of storms + power charge on critical. Or maybe changing even further and going occultist with some nasty Energy shield bonus and with a nice crit node. What you think ?
Would it be a good ideia ? Is there something bad ? What would would be the pros/cons ?

Ty buddy!


Hey, I said in a previous comment I would look into a crit and low life build later on, but I had some spare time at put together a tree on how I would do it.



And yes, I am a sucker for crit multiplier ;D (I left two points open for bandits, res + power charge).

I have never ever tested crit WI in game, and I have not made any calculations, so I am totally clueless about how it will go.

Pros :
You get crits! Which with a good multiplier does insane damage.
If you have shaper you can shock for longer durations! Given the base damage and crit outscales the normal version (not confirmed).

Cons :
We lose int in the tree and % damages
Gearing becomes a bit harder
We might have to socket a increased critical strikes gem into the mix, since icestorm has a base crit on 5 %
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Centhron wrote:
Hey Mathoddie,

don't get yourself too worked up with haters...
your build seems very innovative, interesting and solid.
i'm playing selffound since poe beta and WI ist the first build which carried me to t13 maps at all ( even using IIR and IIQ in the staff, using the Standard WI build as Inquisitor).

But your build seems that great, i spent every free Minute at work since monday to read the Posts, theorycrafting and thinking about playing your version as well. I'll definitely give it a try at the Weekend.
idk if it works as i hope for, but thanks for inspiring me and so many other ppl.

Keep it up and enjoy it!

THANKS for this build :)


Hey Centhron!

Yea, I had a weak moment yesterday, and that guy got to me.
I am glad you like the build, I have a few friends who loves playing selffound also (I have tried it for a league, but I love trading too much to do it again).
But feel free to update me on how it goes!
Ignore that guy, not worth it. My question is when did you do uber izaro? I'm 77 now and first two phases are a joke, he hits me I leech he dies. but third one, he teleports me and by the time i recast my spells he 1-2 shots me.. 8700 ES and 4500 buffed Ice storm damage. i don't think there will be any major difference when I put some more skill points, what do I do?

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