LAB is not fun

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Lab is cancer. GGG dont think bout things:

1. Game latency and player's internet. Dying from lag.
2. No way to re-spawn when u die. No tps for easy lab is ok, but no re-spawn is wasting time.
3. Not every build can do it. Why? Because 90% of skills in game are terrible, and making build (balancing life/es - dps) with terrible skills is terrible. Game is based on 10 skills max, and builds made by streamers. In same time GGG is nerfing and buffing skills, not balancing the game. Thats why ALL players, who dont wonna play meta builds pay for merc and uber service. This is not what Cris said ... "play the game and watch tv difficulty".
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NambrVan wrote:
3. Not every build can do it.

Now, don't get me wrong but I'd really like to see one, people use that a lot as an anti-lab argument but I never saw a decent build that can't do all four labs. To define 'decent', let's say a build that can do yellow tier maps is decent, anything that makes even a lick of sense is capable of that much.
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Dec 9, 2016, 5:45:19 PM
Over-leveling seems to be the simplest way in many cases, but I have been stomped in Cruel Lab with a 70+ character.
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raics wrote:
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NambrVan wrote:
3. Not every build can do it.

Now, don't get me wrong but I'd really like to see one, people use that a lot as an anti-lab argument but I never saw a decent build that can't do all four labs. To define 'decent', let's say a build that can do yellow tier maps is decent, anything that makes even a lick of sense is capable of that much.


5l siege ballista with 4 totems cant ... not lot of life regen, 4k life, cant leach
6l permafreeze stormcall cant, no life leach but can permafreeze t14 bosses ... if miss freeze = dead. In most cases die from izaro and minions.

Lot of builds cant do it. I could put skill list here, but that list will be long ...
Last edited by NambrVan#3450 on Dec 9, 2016, 6:37:46 PM
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NambrVan wrote:
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raics wrote:
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NambrVan wrote:
3. Not every build can do it.

Now, don't get me wrong but I'd really like to see one, people use that a lot as an anti-lab argument but I never saw a decent build that can't do all four labs. To define 'decent', let's say a build that can do yellow tier maps is decent, anything that makes even a lick of sense is capable of that much.

5l siege ballista with 4 totems cant ... not lot of life regen, 4k life, cant leach
6l permafreeze stormcall cant, no life leach but can permafreeze t14 bosses ... if miss freeze = dead. In most cases die from izaro and minions.

Lot of builds cant do it. I could put skill list here, but that list will be long ...


A multi ballista build can kill uber Atziri, uber Izaro poses no problem whatsoever and I haven't heard of Stormcall builds having any trouble with the lab, if it doesn't freeze reliably just don't rely on it.

People have been doing uber lab with all kinds of weaksauce builds, skeleton summoners, pre-2.5 golemancers, orb of storms archer hybrids, iffy melees like dory fist ice crash elementalist, clone archers, blight and plenty more junk like that. If a build can't do it, that usually means it wasn't done well or played well, sometimes both.
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5P4RK4 wrote:
I like lab and think its fun. Its a nice change of pace from just endless clearing.


+1

Rename post to "I don't like the lab". Cause it is fun!

For once we got something that in most cases requires a bit of skill, or a very specific build if you're racing it. I like it.

I wonder if GGG will again bend over to the masses. Breach is the proof a large amount of people enjoy a healthy level of difficulty.

The last 2 points are in no way mandatory to character creation and should remain so.
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DoubleU wrote:
Over-leveling seems to be the simplest way in many cases, but I have been stomped in Cruel Lab with a 70+ character.


Absolutely. I tend to do both cruel/normal lab around level 70, merciless shortly after and then uber lab when ever its not charge fucking disruptors.

Doing lab at the the level you're supposed to do them is suicidal and props to anyone who manages to do this. You could make a point that this is bad design if a lab naturally follows the malachai kill of the same act.
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Last edited by Nephalim#2731 on Dec 9, 2016, 7:43:51 PM
Ok so...
I just started a new character dedicated to do Uber lab runs. (Obviously I love it)
If you don't then take it as a challenge, get your points share your opinion and don't whine about it.

IF you "can't do it" guess what, others can.
Example:
I screwed-up a character then dismantled it. Later on I kinda wanted to use it tho. so I shared my offering with a random guy and got carried in Uber with just ->1,8k<- life!
What I did? I equipped 2 random swords and whirling blade + lightning warped over the traps..

It can be done just put the same amount of effort in thinking about your actions and decisions in lab as much effort you make to write a speech about hating a challenging content in the game.

Also get your warcries, auras, movement skills etc. Maybe that 1% will save you. Be prepared and if you can't do it yet, either skip for a while or pay for a carry. (I got carried today for free fyi)

If labs are stopping you to play the game I wonder what other challenges might frustrate you as well.

Aye,
-R
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Zirocnis wrote:
Ok so...
I just started a new character dedicated to do Uber lab runs. (Obviously I love it)
If you don't then take it as a challenge, get your points share your opinion and don't whine about it.

IF you "can't do it" guess what, others can.
Example:
I screwed-up a character then dismantled it. Later on I kinda wanted to use it tho. so I shared my offering with a random guy and got carried in Uber with just ->1,8k<- life!
What I did? I equipped 2 random swords and whirling blade + lightning warped over the traps..

It can be done just put the same amount of effort in thinking about your actions and decisions in lab as much effort you make to write a speech about hating a challenging content in the game.

Also get your warcries, auras, movement skills etc. Maybe that 1% will save you. Be prepared and if you can't do it yet, either skip for a while or pay for a carry. (I got carried today for free fyi)

If labs are stopping you to play the game I wonder what other challenges might frustrate you as well.

Aye,
-R


You build guys specifically for the lab, then STILL get a carry and follow that up with an insult to others about not facing "challenges"? That's some pretty rich crazy talk you've got going there, son.

Enjoyed my read :D
He was pointing out that lightning warp essentially trivializes the traps in the lab.

I for one like the lab, it has challenge and reward.
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Last edited by tramshed#4306 on Dec 9, 2016, 10:27:35 PM

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