[2.6] CI Best Scourge ClawFlurry, Up to 134+ Mill DPS,Uber/Shaper/Guardians, Budget Version Inc.

I am so bad at this build . . . Ran chimera maybe ten times today, minotaur and hydra once, and shaper.

I killed mino in a few portals, hydra (white, no mods) in one, shaper went fine except for a couple of dumb mistakes movement-wise, but was probably less than 50% against chimera. Chimera just wrecks me. I know one thing is that I'm really bad at the smoke phase--I guess just not accurate enough with whirling blades and miss a lot of them. I also caught a lot of them where he was in or near the very last cloud. But besides that he wrecked me hard. Even with one or maybe two damage mods he was incredibly challenging.

Below is my fully buffed dmg: 6 power charges, blood rage (3 frenzy), ice golem, hatred, HoA, all pots shown.

After watching OP videos, is this even remotely how much dmg you're doing? Your chimera dmg is insane compared to mine. Add phase was nothing for you but is definitely a challenge for me. I honestly don't know how to pump out much more dmg. I bought a doryani's a few minutes ago and it took my "damage per use" to 45k--is that really all it's going to take to push it over the top? I'm not sure I can really get any better gear DPS-wise, so I'm really confused on your damage output compared to mine.

I also opted for the jewel node by CI for now rather than unnatural calm. I'm not sure how much ES that would add, but I imagine my dps would suffer considerably (as well as my stun resilience slightly)--I'd have to give up that cluster plus the last two crit nodes in the big claw wheel.



Asking because I'm not sure if there's more I can squeeze out of this build or if I should maybe start another toon to get my guardian farming done because I just don't have the skill level for this build. I'm fine with it if I'm not and you tell me so--I'd honestly like to know. If I still have a lot of dps room to grow though, I'd still like to keep pushing it more so I can get through these boss phases quicker.

EDIT: this is with inc aoe in 6link.
EDIT 2: damager per use is 66,970 with conc.
Last edited by AHAB_10#7066 on Jan 3, 2017, 11:45:40 PM
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AHAB_10 wrote:
I am so bad at this build . . . Ran chimera maybe ten times today, minotaur and hydra once, and shaper.

I killed mino in a few portals, hydra (white, no mods) in one, shaper went fine except for a couple of dumb mistakes movement-wise, but was probably less than 50% against chimera. Chimera just wrecks me. I know one thing is that I'm really bad at the smoke phase--I guess just not accurate enough with whirling blades and miss a lot of them. I also caught a lot of them where he was in or near the very last cloud. But besides that he wrecked me hard. Even with one or maybe two damage mods he was incredibly challenging.

Below is my fully buffed dmg: 6 power charges, blood rage (3 frenzy), ice golem, hatred, HoA, all pots shown.

After watching OP videos, is this even remotely how much dmg you're doing? Your chimera dmg is insane compared to mine. Add phase was nothing for you but is definitely a challenge for me. I honestly don't know how to pump out much more dmg. I bought a doryani's a few minutes ago and it took my "damage per use" to 45k--is that really all it's going to take to push it over the top? I'm not sure I can really get any better gear DPS-wise, so I'm really confused on your damage output compared to mine.

I also opted for the jewel node by CI for now rather than unnatural calm. I'm not sure how much ES that would add, but I imagine my dps would suffer considerably (as well as my stun resilience slightly)--I'd have to give up that cluster plus the last two crit nodes in the big claw wheel.



Asking because I'm not sure if there's more I can squeeze out of this build or if I should maybe start another toon to get my guardian farming done because I just don't have the skill level for this build. I'm fine with it if I'm not and you tell me so--I'd honestly like to know. If I still have a lot of dps room to grow though, I'd still like to keep pushing it more so I can get through these boss phases quicker.

EDIT: this is with inc aoe in 6link.
EDIT 2: damager per use is 66,970 with conc.


Can you post your full gear and skill tree?

I always say that the most important factor in ANY build is the player's skill level and how the player adapts to the environment and mechanics of a boss.
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Skill tree is for FrankyBadfinger in profile.

I purposefully dropped dark arts for claws of the pride and the jewel node at scion attack speed earlier tonight since I don't yet have enough skill points to get to unnatural calm. It brought my fully buffed aps to 10 which is a hugely noticeable improvement in guardian fights at the moment. I can barely click the mouse without getting two stacks off right now. That change was a def dps improvement with better leech rate for a 64 total ES loss.
Last edited by AHAB_10#7066 on Jan 4, 2017, 6:18:54 AM
So that change was a huge dps boost. I killed final shaper phase in one beam--took all 50% of his health while he was doing it (poison actually finished him off right after, but . . .)
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Meatshield93 wrote:
Anyone played or tried this build without Abyssus? I'm wondering what the damage feels like (T15+ bosses)

Thanks.


I never used abyssus while mapping , except shaper and some T16(no vuln,boss dmg etc. mods).
Even uber atziri melted without abyssus. I switched my build to dagger/shield now but i was playing dual scourge for quite some time. The only trouble you are going to have are with chimera/hydra cause they are immune to poison. Still doable tho if you know the mechanics.
Last edited by skoupidi#7737 on Jan 4, 2017, 6:36:29 AM
Why use Voidheart when you poison and bleed from Assassin??
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ckp2906 wrote:
Why use Voidheart when you poison and bleed from Assassin??


Because Voidheart (along with Assassin passive) provides us with a much higher chance to proc bleed/poison. This results in more damage.
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Hey dude, I'm very interested to try out your build, even if I'm a new player. For this reason I would ask if you can add a little "leveling" guide and/or tips, or at least what spells to use until end-game. Thank's so much!
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zabosnu wrote:
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ckp2906 wrote:
Why use Voidheart when you poison and bleed from Assassin??


Because Voidheart (along with Assassin passive) provides us with a much higher chance to proc bleed/poison. This results in more damage.


I dont get that. you sacrifice a ring slot for that.

And we hit like 8 times a second. So the 40% chance from passives should be enough?
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ckp2906 wrote:
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zabosnu wrote:
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ckp2906 wrote:
Why use Voidheart when you poison and bleed from Assassin??


Because Voidheart (along with Assassin passive) provides us with a much higher chance to proc bleed/poison. This results in more damage.


I dont get that. you sacrifice a ring slot for that.

And we hit like 8 times a second. So the 40% chance from passives should be enough?



Read the modifiers on Noxious Strike very carefully. You don't get a flat 40% poison on hit. You first have to make them bleed and then you can poison. You only have a 30% chance to cause them to bleed (out of 10 attacks only 3 of those will (probably) cause them to bleed). Now you have to calculate in the chance for you to poison the enemy, if the enemy is bleeding, out of 10 attacks only 4 of them will be a poison stack. If the enemy is bleed immune then this passive node is useless since poison depends on bleed to be active.

However, the voidheart ring gives you a flat bleed and poison % which is much better than Noxious Strike (poisons and bleeds on hit, independently (major difference)).

You can simply test it out on a serious boss (i.e. Shaper). Try a run without voidheart and then try a run with voidheart. The difference is pretty significant. The sooner you stack bleed and poison, the more damage you do.


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Ovolollo92 wrote:
Hey dude, I'm very interested to try out your build, even if I'm a new player. For this reason I would ask if you can add a little "leveling" guide and/or tips, or at least what spells to use until end-game. Thank's so much!


Hello! I understand. I'm limited on time so I can only do so much. As soon as I have time then I can include a section for leveling.
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Last edited by unchainedlive#6561 on Jan 4, 2017, 1:58:18 PM

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