[2.6] CI Best Scourge ClawFlurry, Up to 134+ Mill DPS,Uber/Shaper/Guardians, Budget Version Inc.

Firstly thanks for the build. I'm having a great time with it atm !

I just wanted to ask a few questions:
1) How do you deal with Freeze as you're not running any anti-Freeze flask (besides the 30% chance reduction from Taste of Hate).
2) What would you suggest to use to get Power Charges if you don't own Skyforth ? Assassin's Mark/Blasphemy or the specific set up with Orb of Storms ? And which gems would you replace to fill them in ?
3) In the case of Assasin's Mark, which aura set up would you suggest ? (still leveling my level 1 Enlighten, I'm still far from level 3 xD So I guess I won't be able to use Hatred+Disc+Blasphemy and would rather go for Herald of Ash+Disc+Blasphemy. Does losing Hatred mean a huge loss of DPS ?)

Thanks again and sorry if those questions were already asked, that's hard to go through 162 pages.

Starting to follow this build ( Budget version ) and there's one thing I don't get, maybe because I haven't played in a while and things might have changed in the meantime.

I'm under the impression that CI builds need some for of stun prevention ( usually eye of chayula ), however I don't see what could accomplish this in your items. Did the stun problem change for CI builds or am I missing something here ?

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Lyxs wrote:

Starting to follow this build ( Budget version ) and there's one thing I don't get, maybe because I haven't played in a while and things might have changed in the meantime.

I'm under the impression that CI builds need some for of stun prevention ( usually eye of chayula ), however I don't see what could accomplish this in your items. Did the stun problem change for CI builds or am I missing something here ?

CI builds definitely need some. In his gear he uses Skyforth boots, they are the top end boots for a build like this, with power charge generation + stun immunity + lower mana reservation.

The rest of us will either have to use a stun immunity item (valyrium, eye of chayula, kiaras determination), or the boot enchant that helps it out (I think its like a chance to not get stunned)

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DragonBornPoro wrote:

Firstly thanks for the build. I'm having a great time with it atm !

2) What would you suggest to use to get Power Charges if you don't own Skyforth ? Assassin's Mark/Blasphemy or the specific set up with Orb of Storms ? And which gems would you replace to fill them in ?
3) In the case of Assasin's Mark, which aura set up would you suggest ? (still leveling my level 1 Enlighten, I'm still far from level 3 xD So I guess I won't be able to use Hatred+Disc+Blasphemy and would rather go for Herald of Ash+Disc+Blasphemy. Does losing Hatred mean a huge loss of DPS ?)

good questions

plx answer :D

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Blutspakt wrote:

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DragonBornPoro wrote:

Firstly thanks for the build. I'm having a great time with it atm !

2) What would you suggest to use to get Power Charges if you don't own Skyforth ? Assassin's Mark/Blasphemy or the specific set up with Orb of Storms ? And which gems would you replace to fill them in ?
3) In the case of Assasin's Mark, which aura set up would you suggest ? (still leveling my level 1 Enlighten, I'm still far from level 3 xD So I guess I won't be able to use Hatred+Disc+Blasphemy and would rather go for Herald of Ash+Disc+Blasphemy. Does losing Hatred mean a huge loss of DPS ?)

good questions

plx answer :D

Ash + Blasphemy + Discipline AND 4% REDUCED MANA REVERSED. I have 29k almost 30k DPS when running those, very smooth gameplay, just running around and kill everything in 1-shot, you always at maximum power charge. I have 718 mana in total, after Ash + Blasphemy + Discipline I got 62 mana left, It's enough for your rotation.

With Hatred + Disc + Ash + Enlighten lvl 4 + 4% reduced mana reversed I have 36k DPS, 6k flat DPS more than Blasphemy setup (keep in mind Assassin's Mark also give you 20% increased extra damage from Critical Strikes), but you'll have a hard time to maintain your power charge and you only have 46 mana left .

And 1 more thing. The Orb of Storm + Faster casting + Power charge on crit + Increased crit strike cost you 42 mana per cast. Imagine with 46 mana pool and 42 mana per cast, how hard your life is? Whirling Blade into a pack of mobs then drop the Orb and BOMB you're out of mana - use the mana pot, took you so long and maybe you'll get 1-shot. So NO, I'm not going to use this setup :)

And again, if you want to run Hatred + Disc + Ash you MUST have a Skyforth + Enlighten at least lvl 3 OR Charisma node (near Vaal Pact) + Enlighten at least lvl 3 - cost you 4 passive points.

So, go for Ash + Disc + Blasphemy + 4% reduced mana reversed until you get a Enlighten lvl 3 or 4 then you can try yourself Hatred + Disc + Ash. Your DPS still good because 20% increased extra damage from Critical Strikes from Assassin's Mark and permanent power charge and smooth gameplay.

That's my recommend. You can go whatever you want and also test yourself for those setup. Have fun :)

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Baggelz wrote:

Hey, I recently made a new character and I'm using this build, currently on 7.1k ES with Discipline and dual wielding The Scourge, Herald of Ash and Hatred, however I've had to take the Charisma nodes and the 4% reduced mana reserved near CI to be able to run these. I was wondering if it would be worth dropping the nodes and running a curse instead (I have Witchfire Brew so no need for Vulnerability) or using the points in other passives and get rid of Hatred?

Currently running on a 5L until I can afford an ES 6L, any advice is appreciated! Thanks.

I don't know why you guys focus on those auras, do everything to run Hatred + Disc + Ash. How could you maintain your power charge? Or just reach maximum 6 charges then lost it then generate them again? You lost a tonne of dmg for doing that. How about just keep your maximum critical chance with 5 or 6 power charge, they give you 85-90% or even more critical chance, and with 85% chance to hit, you almost on your highest DPS permanently. With those setup without Skyforth, you can't maintain your power charge, you only have 10% to gain power charge on non-crit hit but when you're at 3-4 power charge up it very hard to gain more power charge to maximum your DPS and when you reach maximum power charge 99% you can't maintain it, it'll lost unless you hit a ton of mobs. And I believe my dmg mostly come from critical strike because I'm using Abyssus so I find anyways to keep my power charge always up to get maximum benefit from Abyssus not from flat dmg.

For skill tree improve. IMO, I'll take jews slot and drop down +1 charge to get another jews. Refunds 4 points of Charisma, take Will of Blades and Sleight of Hand. Run Disc + Ash + Assassin's Mark (this combo I did Abyss T15 2 bosses, deathless). Check your character stats, improve your weakness, don't follow the setup or the guide, you fix yourself wherever you feel bad. For Ex. If you have 87-90% crit chance when maximum power charge then 20-30% crit chance from tree or gears doesn't give you more crit chance as you expect so find another stats that you feel bad like accuracy (recommend at least 85% hit chance) or some dmg. If you feel a way too soft then pick up defensive combo Immortal Call + Cast when dmg taken + Increased duration. You want to increase your dmg, try Wither totem + Spell totem + Faster casting + Increased duration, or simply put Fortify to your Whirling Blade setup. If you don't like Assassin's Mark then replace by Vulnerability, drop your Witchfire brew pick up Basalt for more defensive.

And again yeah, that is my opinion and in my case, it works :). Try many different ways and choose your what you like. Have fun!

Hey @ntien93 can you please look at my post on the previous page and figure out where im missing so much damage?

whats the 5 link for the budget version?

stuck on level 76 atm.

this build is shit. you get one-hit. Who's idea was it to use ES? its fucked. At least with life you can get hit a few times and recover, but with ES it is hard to recover shield and you can only take one hit usually.

ES is about 4600

My build is a halfway house between the Ci budget build and the Ci Scourge build; as im trying to save up for my first Scourge claw then i will go full Scourge Ci.

build seems a bit clunky and laggy, might be a stun recovery weakness, im not sure. But earlier today something really pissed me off: i was fighting away and up pops fucking Vorici and instead of 'whirling blades' out of a mob it clicked onto Vorici = dead. Yes sometimes there is just no free space to whirling blades onto and you end up getting killed.


I tried copying the budget build and going for some chaos nodes but the build is actually a lot stronger if you pick the phys nodes in middle of tree... (will of blades, Sleight of Hand) Reason being is 40% phys is converted to poison... so its no use going full retard on the chaos if you dont have enough phys to convert in the first place !!!!

This build cannot do Merc lab. So I have 4 Ascendency points left.. if it cannot do merc, i have no fucking idea how it will do uber. it would be impossible.

current gear (best i can afford atm)




i tried linking jewels too but it wont let me... once you click on your jewels in the skill tree there is no way you can return to the forum.


looks like this will be another build i will have to retire... the highest ive ever climbed with any build so far is level 87. Ive had about 6 characters. Every cookie cutter build i try and recreate fails.

Ive come to realise that this build is not a good league starter. and all of the league starters ive looked at seem boring to me. i dont want to play a boring build for half a season in order to play a build i want to play. That's just fucking retarded!

You're a bunch of liars.

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CrunCherTime wrote:

whats the 5 link for the budget version?

blade flurry - added chaos damage - void manipulation - faster attacks - conc effect/aoe