[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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Vendet27 wrote:

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Lordzero2 wrote:

so a quick question. I am thinking about having a 5l chest for my lightning arrow then a 5l opus for single target barrage while clearing the map and a 6l chin sol on switch for map bosses. How much of a dps difference is there between 6 link opus and 6 link chin sol at close range?


Also for my 6l in chin sol would I be better off using void manipulation or point blank?

Both, Void maniupulation is gem and point blank is skill from skill-tree.

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Lordzero2 wrote:

why devotos over rats nest?

im debating using Cherrubim's Maleficence Triumphant Lamellar over queen of hte forest. anyone know how much the 56ish% chaos dmg would effect my damage? I can have ovr max resists without queen of the forest.

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SUPERKINGa wrote:

Hi there my peeps!

Im currently level 92
This is my passive skill tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAQHcAx4FLQW1B5kQkhEvFCAUdRa_H0EhdiPTI_Yk_SaVKgsqWysKLlMwfDH6MgEyMjWSNj031DnUQzFDNkd-Sn1Mjkz_TZJOKlBHUUdS7FVLVvpZ8FoaW69d8l8_YeJh62KsZU1noGqMbIxvJ287cFJ07XXLdvd313fjeA15aHn2elN67311fyuEooTZhs6HdonTjDaNfY1-jb-PYJAKmmqbJp2qoJ-i2aTCqW6w2LIZtMW1SLXyt7a8b702vqfAGsEEwTPC7MMzyBTPetNv037UI9i92YbaweOf51To1upi62PtP-4O7w7vevVv_rr_3g==

And this is my gearing:

I can do maps crazy fast but I'm having a rough time vs t16 bosses / shaper who insta-shots me. I was thinking on using vaal pact but with BR it simply doesnt feel nice to map... Can anyone help me out?

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Running a curse on hit on the gloves, we can get corrupted snakebite gloves
Curse on hit with Vulnerability = 3+ exalts for unlinked
Curse on hit with Temporal Chains = 10c for fully linked (i got mine with right colors for 5c)

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nieth79 wrote:

Awesome build, this is the second league i am playing it. I'd like to input a bit of information and food for thought for players that play this and some feedback as well:


1) TS VS LA / Barrage

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Firstly, in terms of single target
Barrage:

• GMP: 61.4% * (4 + 4 + 4) * 0.64 = 471.6%
• Slower Proj.: 61.4% * (4 + 4) * 1.29 = 633.6%

Tornado Shot:

• GMP: 109% * (2 + 4 + 4) * 0.64 = 697.6%
• Slower Proj.: 109% * (2 + 4) * 1.29 = 843.66%

Source on Reddit

Basically, in terms of raw dmg output without any enchants TS outperforms Barrage by a mile. Surely there is an argument about the # of projectiles that would actually hit using either skill, however - with barrage to ensure you hit with all projectiles (since they spray out at a longer distance) you've gotta be pretending you've got Point Blank and get pretty close to the target. With TS you have +4 (legacy ROTC), +1 (corrupted drillneck), +2 secondary (helm enchant), +2 (Dying Sun flask) = a total of 9 secondary projectiles being fired. The chances of all 9 projectiles missing a boss is rather minuscule. Another bonus of TS - there's no need to actually aim at the target, you can fire off in the general direction and surely hit the boss with at least 6-8 projectiles easily.

Next point to consider - with TS you only need 1 6-linked item vs two (or 6L+5L). Moreover, +2 secondary TS proj helm enchant is about 2-3 ex as compared to +2 barrage projectiles at 7ish exalts.

In terms of AOE / map clears:
I personally feel that TS outperforms LA, there's an argument of shock vs more phys dmg -> more poison dmg, but DPS is sufficient to annihilate any pack anyway, so the DPS isn't an issue, the issue is utility. If the packs are tight and mobs come together - sure LA is efficient, however the moment you get stragglers coming in, or invasion boss or occasional beyond mobs spawning all over the place - TS actually is far more efficient in terms of clearing screen.

2) Temp chains vs Vulnerability

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Running a curse on hit on the gloves, we can get corrupted snakebite gloves

• Curse on hit with Vulnerability = 3+ exalts for unlinked
• Curse on hit with Temporal Chains = 10c for fully linked (i got mine with right colors for 5c)

Taking my gear (linked in the next section) and plugging it into Path of Building with lvl 10 of both curses and using TS:

• Vulnerability = 82'950 poison DPS
• Temporal Chains = 63'017 poison DPS

However, this is not the end of the story! This is damage per second for a single stack of poison:

• Vulnerability = 165'901 poison damage per stack of poison with 2 seconds duration
• Temporal Chains = 210'057 poison damage per stack of poison with 3.3 seconds duration

With Temporal chains you are actually doing more overall damage by a fair margin, you are just doing that damage over 3.3 seconds instead of 2. Considering my 3.3 attacks per second, at max stacks of poison i am actually doing significantly more DPS with temp chains.

Vulnerability does not add anything to your survival while temporal chains helps. My personal preferred setup for this league is definitely temp chains!

3) My gear setup

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4) My tree

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POE Tree Build

Would love to hear some input! :)

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allana wrote:

I've noticed that with tornado shot you don't really need to use barrage at least for mapping, I honestly like the skill better than barrage overall because of how barrage 'locks you in place'

I'm 88, still not died once so the build is definitely HC viable. Although my gear is probably on the higher end spectrum

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Would like to get a better belt but overall am happy with this setup. If only a headhunter could drop..