[Not a Bug] Cospri's Malice Failing to Leech

The thing that needs to be mentioned is this:

When you kill a certain boss, with a certain speed, pre atlas and after atlas, with the same setup you should also have around the same leech.

I know alot of people are thinking about the damage, and charges and all that.

What you REALLY should be focused on is the speed at which your killing a boss.

If you kill a givin boss pre atlas, lets say on avg. 15 secs. ( asuming we are using cyclone, discharge ) and you leech perfectly with just the life leech gem.

now take the same setup in atlas of worlds. If you STILL kill the boss on avg. 15 secs, but you dont leech at all ( or not even close to what u did before), then you KNOW there is a problem. ( asuming the boss has the same amount of HP pre, and after atlas )

With this simple explanation you can forget everything else, because you KNOW the damage is done whether theres a 35% reduc on discharge or not, and regardless of the charges you generate.

If you kill the boss at the same speed, then you DO have the damge and you SHOULD have the leech!!!

you guys agree?



The problem is they don't want to fix this, in my other char i have whispering ice build with life leech gem + warlord's mark, and the leech is amazing... I think they just don't know how to fix it.
Why on earth was this labeled with "not a bug"? It definitely is a bug, as most of the time in maps you're leeching just fine, but suddenly a certain monster comes along (i.e double essence monster), of which you're unable to leech almost at all, despite the damage you're doing. I'm doing the discharge variant and even with LL gem, Warlord's mark and Vinktar I am unable to leech on certain monsters.

The notable thing here is that most of the bosses seem to grant leech just fine. I just did Gorge map with Ele reflect, shocked ground and added fire, I got the boss down without much problem. Then I went to Tropical Island, saw a double essence monster, and even though the Life of that thing went down pretty much at the same speed, I only leeched a little after each discharge despite using vinktar. Once a trash mob wanders along in the discharge aoe, I'm suddenly at full ES again. And this seems to happen on all essence monsters I've met so far, doesn't matter what map mods, the problem is always the same.

It's definitely a bug and if it isn't, I'd very much like to hear the reasoning behind this. It's a damn frustrating "feature".

E: doesn't happen with all essence monsters, just those with double essence
Last edited by Reductant#7093 on Sep 28, 2016, 8:06:54 AM
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Reductant wrote:
Why on earth was this labeled with "not a bug"? It definitely is a bug, as most of the time in maps you're leeching just fine, but suddenly a certain monster comes along (i.e double essence monster), of which you're unable to leech almost at all, despite the damage you're doing. I'm doing the discharge variant and even with LL gem, Warlord's mark and Vinktar I am unable to leech on certain monsters.

The notable thing here is that most of the bosses seem to grant leech just fine. I just did Gorge map with Ele reflect, shocked ground and added fire, I got the boss down without much problem. Then I went to Tropical Island, saw a double essence monster, and even though the Life of that thing went down pretty much at the same speed, I only leeched a little after each discharge despite using vinktar. Once a trash mob wanders along in the discharge aoe, I'm suddenly at full ES again. And this seems to happen on all essence monsters I've met so far, doesn't matter what map mods, the problem is always the same.

It's definitely a bug and if it isn't, I'd very much like to hear the reasoning behind this. It's a damn frustrating "feature".

E: doesn't happen with all essence monsters, just those with double essence

The reason it's labelled as not a bug is because like 20 people posted actual bug info or videos about it where they claimed it wasn't leeching, and GGG repeated all of those situations and found that it was actually working fine. (They can measure the exact amount of leech, not just look at the health level.)

If you do find an actual situation where the leech isn't working, then please do post a video or screenshot, or a /bug report number about it. That way GGG can easily replicate it for themselves to test it. However, please don't do this if (like all the other posters in this thread) you are wrong. There are enough actual bugs for GGG to fix without having to waste time on things that aren't bugs.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
I will not persuade anyone. I'm not going to prove anything.
On the map Atoll died twice on a single Totem. Leech - no! And then on the dual essence - the same thing.
On the map Atoll with two totems - no problems when they stand side by side!
And I do not need to talk about the difference between leech solo goal and objectives of the group! This is not the case! In the case of the two totems my life almost does not fall! Barely twitches! And on the same totem - it just goes down jerks! Think! Double boss does not cause me any problems !!
This is not the case when a group of 5-20 monsters, and this may explain the increase in Leech!
I am genuinely sorry my Legacy Mjolner that I bought 45 ex a week before the start of the league. I'm sorry to the sword - it was a great idea. But it is broken.
I understand - no one will be nothing to correct. Locked.
PS People - not fools. Look at just the price of the sword. And just remember what it was at the beginning of the league .... It is a useless thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes not ....
PPS Character --- https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/poe_work/characters
Anticipating questions - Leech gem, Vinktar Flask, Warlord mark --- all used at the same time.

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Last edited by stick111#6562 on Sep 29, 2016, 2:37:50 PM
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stick111 wrote:
On the map Atoll died twice on a single Totem. Leech - no! And then on the dual essence - the same thing.
On the map Atoll with two totems - no problems when they stand side by side!

Going from one enemy to two is a very big leap: you generate twice the Charges with Voll's Protector, massively improving Damage per Hit, and hit twice the amount of enemies with that improved Damage. All in all, the amount of Leech received is at least tripled, if not more.

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stick111 wrote:
PS People - not fools. Look at just the price of the sword. And just remember what it was at the beginning of the league .... It is a useless thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes not ....

This always happens when an item that people think is super overpowered turns out to be just okay. This is not because Leech is bugged. It's because single-target potential of these types of builds just isn't that great anymore, which in turn makes Leech against single opponents kinda bad.
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Sep 29, 2016, 2:55:31 PM
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Hughs wrote:
The problem is they don't want to fix this, in my other char i have whispering ice build with life leech gem + warlord's mark, and the leech is amazing... I think they just don't know how to fix it.


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Reductant wrote:
Why on earth was this labeled with "not a bug"? It definitely is a bug


This.

Making a good muzzle during a bad play isn't really the best exit out of this, yet for some reason a few people here keep pushing an idea there ain't no problem, selecting "good" posts to quote & lightly skipping "bad" ones. Probably, simply because they want it to be so.
Last edited by KRIGSSVIN#1899 on Sep 29, 2016, 7:36:47 PM
Before GGG can once again take the problem seriously, you would have to:

1) Find somebody who has a Cospri's Malice, a good understanding of game mechanics, maths, and of how leech works, and who also knows how to report a bug.
2) Get them to actually apply the above knowledge and understanding when making a bug report about this.

Seems pretty simple, right? If there is a bug, then I'm sure at some point it will happen. No need to keep bumping this thread with 'arguments'; it's not a discussion forum.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
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Reductant wrote:
Why on earth was this labeled with "not a bug"? It definitely is a bug, as most of the time in maps you're leeching just fine, but suddenly a certain monster comes along (i.e double essence monster), of which you're unable to leech almost at all, despite the damage you're doing. I'm doing the discharge variant and even with LL gem, Warlord's mark and Vinktar I am unable to leech on certain monsters.

The notable thing here is that most of the bosses seem to grant leech just fine. I just did Gorge map with Ele reflect, shocked ground and added fire, I got the boss down without much problem. Then I went to Tropical Island, saw a double essence monster, and even though the Life of that thing went down pretty much at the same speed, I only leeched a little after each discharge despite using vinktar. Once a trash mob wanders along in the discharge aoe, I'm suddenly at full ES again. And this seems to happen on all essence monsters I've met so far, doesn't matter what map mods, the problem is always the same.

It's definitely a bug and if it isn't, I'd very much like to hear the reasoning behind this. It's a damn frustrating "feature".

E: doesn't happen with all essence monsters, just those with double essence


No, "double essence" is not the cause of your issue. You should put effort in noticing which essences specifically caused you problem. For your information Remnant of Corruption and failed corrupted essence monsters has a Cannot be Leeched mod.
Last edited by Illviljan#6833 on Sep 29, 2016, 10:26:49 PM
Man.. as much as i have enjoyed playing with both single and dualing versions of cospri.. somethings just wrong when im level 92. max res.. immortal call.. lots of dps. and die instantly to the stupid bull boss in racecourse when i hit him with any spell... period. Its not just a leech issue.. for some reason i guess some bosses have cannot be leech AND Reflect.. im just not sure.. but at the end the day.. it just doesn't work at times. period.. and frankly.. it just sucks
Last edited by Tomorrowtech#4871 on Sep 29, 2016, 11:18:59 PM

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