[2.4] CI/LL Blade Vortex Pathfinder

hey pure whats optimized potion setup if currency is no issues vinktars/taste of hate/rumi's what are the last 2?

also how do we run 3 auras? I'm using discipline and hatred and not much mana left

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poeblader wrote:

hey pure whats optimized potion setup if currency is no issues vinktars/taste of hate/rumi's what are the last 2?

also how do we run 3 auras? I'm using discipline and hatred and not much mana left

Conversion Vinktars + Taste of Hate + Rumi's Concoction + Diamond (Shock), Silver (Surgeon+Freeze)

Silver Flask because it lasts long (Anti-Freeze) and gives us more Attack&Castspeed and some Movespeed. That helps with Whirling Blades (it can get REALLY fast. My 15% dagger + Silver is already fast but with Vaal Haste on top of that it bypasses a 30% Quicksilver by a lot) and helps us gain BV charges faster, makes us more mobile that way and we can deal damage much faster.

We spec into Reduced Mana Reserved nodes. Charisma and Leadership (if you're missing points just get one point into Influence)
I have reserved like 85% of my mana. I'm not a 100% sure about running Clarity + getting manareg on rings but it helps because we can charge up BV without having to rely fully on manaleech. We don't have access to a mana flask so this is probably the best choice, especially because we would want to get the Aura Effect nodes anyway.

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Purexec wrote:

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poeblader wrote:

hey pure whats optimized potion setup if currency is no issues vinktars/taste of hate/rumi's what are the last 2?

also how do we run 3 auras? I'm using discipline and hatred and not much mana left

Conversion Vinktars + Taste of Hate + Rumi's Concoction + Diamond (Shock), Silver (Surgeon+Freeze)

Silver Flask because it lasts long (Anti-Freeze) and gives us more Attack&Castspeed and some Movespeed. That helps with Whirling Blades (it can get REALLY fast. My 15% dagger + Silver is already fast but with Vaal Haste on top of that it bypasses a 30% Quicksilver by a lot) and helps us gain BV charges faster, makes us more mobile that way and we can deal damage much faster.

We spec into Reduced Mana Reserved nodes. Charisma and Leadership (if you're missing points just get one point into Influence)
I have reserved like 85% of my mana. I'm not a 100% sure about running Clarity + getting manareg on rings but it helps because we can charge up BV without having to rely fully on manaleech. We don't have access to a mana flask so this is probably the best choice, especially because we would want to get the Aura Effect nodes anyway.

hmm I don't see you speced into influence did you spec out of it on your final tree?
heres my tree at 87 its slightly different then urs do you suggest I switch to yours?

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poeblader wrote:

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Purexec wrote:

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poeblader wrote:

hey pure whats optimized potion setup if currency is no issues vinktars/taste of hate/rumi's what are the last 2?

also how do we run 3 auras? I'm using discipline and hatred and not much mana left

Conversion Vinktars + Taste of Hate + Rumi's Concoction + Diamond (Shock), Silver (Surgeon+Freeze)

Silver Flask because it lasts long (Anti-Freeze) and gives us more Attack&Castspeed and some Movespeed. That helps with Whirling Blades (it can get REALLY fast. My 15% dagger + Silver is already fast but with Vaal Haste on top of that it bypasses a 30% Quicksilver by a lot) and helps us gain BV charges faster, makes us more mobile that way and we can deal damage much faster.

We spec into Reduced Mana Reserved nodes. Charisma and Leadership (if you're missing points just get one point into Influence)
I have reserved like 85% of my mana. I'm not a 100% sure about running Clarity + getting manareg on rings but it helps because we can charge up BV without having to rely fully on manaleech. We don't have access to a mana flask so this is probably the best choice, especially because we would want to get the Aura Effect nodes anyway.

hmm I don't see you speced into influence did you spec out of it on your final tree?
heres my tree at 87 its slightly different then urs do you suggest I switch to yours?

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAAG8A-4FQgceDXwOSA5cD6sRLxFQEZYV1xXtFr8Zih1PHb4i9CSLJJ0o-ioLKjgrCiycLL8vbzOHNbk9X0GWRA1FfklRTLNSU1S9VmNXyVxAXfJfal-wYlpq-mwLbRlvnnBScLt1_XcHf8aCx4MJhG-GrocTidOMNo_6kyeVLpaLlwaXlZf0m42btZykoS-nK66ztAy1SLmTvorDCcM6xKLI8MpKytPOqNDQ0PXTftRC1bnZE9-Y6rrrY-v17BjvevDV8h37CQ==

Updated tree. I just noticed that Influence is better than Leadership, I thought it was the other way around lol

- Get Charisma (more Reduced Mana Reserved)
- Get the one Int point above Harrier if you really want to get True Strike instead of the 2 Dex ones. No need to connect through the bottom.
- Get more jewel sockets and buy 8%ES jewels described in the first post. They aren't that expensive.
- Get the ES in the Witch starting area.


Maybe get Shaper for some extra Manareg instead of Harrier. Both are good, just depends on your preference and what content you want to do. Being able to pre-cast 20 stacks is worth it in higher tier maps in my opinion.

Hi, thanks for the build.

What do you think about dropping chayula for a crit amulet an getting the 80% stun immunity on kill enchant on boots instead? That worked really well for me in Propohecy.

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gonaldinho wrote:

Hi, thanks for the build.

What do you think about dropping chayula for a crit amulet an getting the 80% stun immunity on kill enchant on boots instead? That worked really well for me in Propohecy.

Oh that could be a problem for bosses, but other than that sure.

You could use Kiaras as well as an alternative. A rare amulet with some ES, crit and spelldmg would be great. You could use Facebreakers as well if you balance out the res a bit. Just some thoughts. I probably won't drop Chayulas except I get Skyforth, though.

hey pure u don't think we need basalt flask? I got the 3 uniq flasks atm

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poeblader wrote:

hey pure u don't think we need basalt flask? I got the 3 uniq flasks atm

Why would we need it if we use:

I mean Basalt is great and if you don't have Rumi's I'd recommend using it but especially with Rumi's + ToH there's no real reason to use a Basalt over a Diamond/Quicksilver/Silver imho.

Hey man, great to see someone finally make a "guide" for this build. Loving the playstyle but I feel stuck, can you help me by telling me how can I improve my gear or passives? I have around 1 ex and 30ish c in my stash atm so I dont really have for a vinktar.

I can do maps up to tier 6 with relative ease. Would like to make a UberIzaro / Uber Atziri build from this.

Gear


Passives


Final passive tree ( lvl 100 )

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GamerBeast wrote:

Hey man, great to see someone finally make a "guide" for this build. Loving the playstyle but I feel stuck, can you help me by telling me how can I improve my gear or passives? I have around 1 ex and 30ish c in my stash atm so I dont really have for a vinktar.

I can do maps up to tier 6 with relative ease. Would like to make a UberIzaro / Uber Atziri build from this.

Gear

Spoiler

Passives

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAPuBUIHHg18DkgQexEPES8RUBGWFdcWvxmKGo8dviBuIuoi9CepKPoqCyo4KwosnCy_L28zhzW5N0w9X0GWRnFJUUmxTLNQMFJTVmNXyVxrXfJfamJabAttGW1scFJwu3X9f4B_xoLHgwmESIRvhq6J04w2j_qTJ5UulwaXlZf0oS-nK6yYrrOv67QMtUi5k76KwwnDOsNtxKLHncrT0NDQ9dRC18_ZE9sa217fmOd05-ro1uq662Pr9ewY74jw1fId9tr31_kz-Tf56PsJ_xA=?accountName=GamerBeast&characterName=OhIFinallyGotIn

Final passive tree ( lvl 100 )

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAK_r5-r5M5cGxKLfmGJaGYrDOio4Fr91_YRv1EK1SOtjES8rCl3yKgtwUonTjDYOSBGWBx6VLvDVSVGP-uv1wwm5k_Id0NBfauwYLL8V14auVmNwu9kTL29_xpMn74j5N9fPSbFsCyL0bRkRUDW5pyuX9FJTPV-XlUyzIG5QMNteavoOXBEPrJj314RIXGvDba6zQZbQ9QVCLJy-iqEvytO0DOq6DXxXySj6gscdvjOHA-4dT_noRnGDCYt6AW_i9xsl2VtFfhqP9tr7CcedN0x_lp9tjZL3Pf8Qf4DpAkuuvoAtqLGQ4YgYVr0nm7WExd-K7-vQHxg8_kkdqiLq6NbndG1s2xoQe746

Sure!

- I don't see you being stun immune, are you? Drop the amulet and get Chayula
- Rings and gloves could be better with low investment. We don't benefit from attackspeed except for WB btw.
- Belt could be better. I recommend Magnate.
- You don't need a Anti-Bleed flask as every flask heals bleed as a Pathfinder (or are you playing a different ascendancy?)
- I'd recommend running a Diamond Flask (some Charge-thing + shock removal)
- You could get a better dagger. Aim for 60% spelldmg and 140% crit (like 80% implicit crit and 60% spellcrit for example)

The rest of your gear is fine. Don't need to upgrade helmet/shield/chest/boots (maybe for movespeed) for a while. How much ES do you have? If you don't have a Energy from Within get one (and put it near Melding)

- I wouldn't get the nodes near Void Barrier. Too much investment for 10/20% ES. I'd get Druidic Rite instead to get the flask stuff and some more mana. The rest of your tree is fine.

If you still have some chaos after some upgrades I'd recommend getting Rumi's before a conversion Vinktars. It's really helpful because we're semi-melee and really benefit from block.