Detailed Atlas Mechanics

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BerryP wrote:

I think people are largely pitching a fit over nothing. Or more accurately, pitching a fit because GGG is giving them a new Kia instead of a BMW.

Were accounts "bricked" before by the 100% RNG map drops? No. You still have far more control over your maps then you did before and honestly granting the people the ability to remove maps from their drop poll would be downright abusive.

The problem is that, as described, AoW does give us the power to do exactly that. However, it does so under the terms that screwing up has account-wide repercussions.

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BerryP" wrote:

I also doubt that we are going to be allowed to cherry pick maps via trade. GGG would be stupid to allow us to 100% optimize our map pool. I, like other people, bet that when you unlock a high tier map via trade that it burrows a path back to the nearest t1.

Agreed there.

Which then implies that you cannot unlock, for instance, the new Guardian fights without screwing up your T12-T15 map pool at the account level.

One more thing to keep in mind. I don't know how i will play until more info, but just a warning to those that like to min max and that don't want to drop shit maps all the time like me. Don't be fooled by 100 more quantity if you unlock whole atlas, because as i understand it it will not yield you 100% more maps, and on top of that you will get crappy maps.

ScrotieMcB explained it really nice here:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1560965/page/1

being able to use Shaper's Orbs only on discovered maps(boss killed), screws PT's atlas abusing shenanigans; right?.

INB4 Gorge map worth 10 Ex or something. ;_;

Too much to take in for a noob like me, but I am glad to see Shapers Orbs are account bound.
The less tradeable the better.

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Ithi wrote:

My solution to this problem is using mechanic similar to Warbands league. Have everyday random pool of maps affected by desired and undesired effects. Pushing players to run different maps everyday and giving them advantage for exploring whole atlas - get access to all positively affected maps each day.

+1 on that idea, though its on the wrong forum..
if each day each map kind had an additional random mod, which was the same for everyone, this would make it a good thing having other maps, maybe on a particular day cells has a mod that grants extra pack size while courtyard has on same day a blood magic roll and gorge a reflect making it good to play cells that day, while next day the situation could be reversed..
would make the game less repetitive and give a reason to play those maps most dislike every now and then...

I really don't like that the Atlas is account wide since different builds will want to do the Atlas differently.

Also definitely need a way to completely reset the Atlas because as it stands if anything changes regarding the desirability of certain maps or your personal goals in the game your account may end up "bricked".

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kreca73 wrote:

being able to use Shaper's Orbs only on discovered maps(boss killed), screws PT's atlas abusing shenanigans; right?.

pretty sure you can only apply the shaper's orb on unlocked maps. what loop hole did projectPT describe?

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ggg, generally i'm pretty sure that if your aim was to make people play more endgame, you will probably achieve that.

that skilldrasil for maps is making the endgame much more enjoyable, transparent and interesting for strategies. well done!

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acme_myst wrote:

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BerryP" wrote:

I also doubt that we are going to be allowed to cherry pick maps via trade. GGG would be stupid to allow us to 100% optimize our map pool. I, like other people, bet that when you unlock a high tier map via trade that it burrows a path back to the nearest t1.

Agreed there.

Which then implies that you cannot unlock, for instance, the new Guardian fights without screwing up your T12-T15 map pool at the account level.

Rich players will be able to buy T15 maps and play only those 4 maps, to get access to T16 guardians and farm Shaper. You dont have to complete any other map on the Atlas, ever. You sell T14 drops from T15, to help you buy more T15.

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iCatalin wrote:

If you shape a map it's permanent?

You can respec the decision to upgrade a map by trading 20 Cartographer's Chisels and 5 Orbs of Regret to a vendor. This is intentionally an expensive operation.