Detailed Atlas Mechanics

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acme_myst wrote:

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IceDeal wrote:

So if I get it right, I just have to wait for players to farm red maps (or make an alt account to do so), use them and I'll only drop red maps and 4 white for the rest of my life ?

Roughly, yes, but it depends on the exact mechanics.

First of all, the problem isn't with tiers (or red/yellow/white), it's with layouts. If, say, Gorge and Orchard are on the same tier, and you've played only Gorge, then every time you find a map of that tier it will be a Gorge map. However, if you now play Orchard, even only once, then from that moment on, for every character in that league (hi, Standard players!), you have a 50/50 chance of maps of that tier being either Gorge or Orchard.

The other part, which would open up this system to abuse, would be if running a "new" map unlocks just that map and not the entire path up to it. If it doesn't and you just get the new map, you can cherrypick the maps of each tier that you want to be able to find.

What I think is more likely is that it functions the same way as legacy maps, meaning it unlocks the entire path to this map. This will mean that you can't unlock all the high maps (guardians in particular) within screwing with which maps are unlocked at lower tiers.

In either case, there will be the serious risk of bricking your atlas at the account level, by, e.g., forever turning 50% of your Gorges into Orchards.

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Tight_04 wrote:

At least you should have unlocked a map from every tier. but maybe im wrong :D

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BerryP wrote:

I think people are largely pitching a fit over nothing. Or more accurately, pitching a fit because GGG is giving them a new Kia instead of a BMW.

Were accounts "bricked" before by the 100% RNG map drops? No. You still have far more control over your maps then you did before and honestly granting the people the ability to remove maps from their drop poll would be downright abusive.

I also doubt that we are going to be allowed to cherry pick maps via trade. GGG would be stupid to allow us to 100% optimize our map pool. I, like other people, bet that when you unlock a high tier map via trade that it burrows a path back to the nearest t1.

As for the whining about having to farm higher tier maps to get drops of maps you've shaped? Meh. It's again like complaining about having to choose between cake or ice cream for desert. Maps drop rates have always been gated by mlvl why should it be substantially different. The shaper orb seems to simply be a way to keep maps you like relevant for a longer period once you've passed them in level, not a l33t h4x method of optimizing xp gain.

After all, the point of this expansion is to lengthen the end game, not shorten it even further.

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BoondockSaint wrote:

Players in standard leagues will have bricked atlases after this league anyway.

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BerryP wrote:

I also doubt that we are going to be allowed to cherry pick maps via trade. GGG would be stupid to allow us to 100% optimize our map pool. I, like other people, bet that when you unlock a high tier map via trade that it burrows a path back to the nearest t1.