Minority, and a Plea.

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Nssheepster wrote:

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reibuorumai wrote:

No it doesn't. If you don't like running the lab then it's just a thing you do (or pay someone a pittance to do for you) once per difficulty, it's hardly even a part of the game if you don't want it to be. And no, "the wrong person" leaving has never changed anything for any game unless it's a developer. As a developer, you can't just give everyone what they think they want, especially in a carrot stick game like PoE; Chris and crew have a vision for the game, and they're going to stick with it, just like they always have. Ascendancy and prophecy have been their most popular expansion and league since the game was released; GGG know what they're doing. You are a minority, the game's life is fine.

A), It's pretty dang clear it's NOT a minority from the most basic of evidence.

B). ONE MAN runs the POE.Trade Website. The WHOLE THING. IF he ALONE leaves, the entire economy of the game collapses. The VAST majority of players trade using that website, or something that references that website. Basic currency ratios are obtained THERE, not anywhere else. He could literally KILL POE whenever he wanted.

It only takes ONE. You, too, underestimate how fragile POE is. The community sustains POE like few other games. Without the community, POE will die like any other RPG without a community.

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

There couldn't possibly be some sort of middle ground where most people accept the lab as I'd, do it for the ascendancy points, challenges, and a few enchants then go back to making. Nah that's totally impossible, you either love the lab and flood the market with helmet enchants or your a righteous hater who can't stand the place.

Lol that's what I did last time I really played (in Perandus), ascendency points, a few enchants (excluding helmet ones, cause fuck that), and bye bye lab, never again (with my current char anyway).

Idk why there is not more people who dislike the lab who do that, it's not like we were forced to farm it endlessly.

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

There couldn't possibly be some sort of middle ground where most people accept the lab as I'd, do it for the ascendancy points, challenges, and a few enchants then go back to making. Nah that's totally impossible, you either love the lab and flood the market with helmet enchants or your a righteous hater who can't stand the place.

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Sardekar wrote:

Yes, this thread is extremely hyperbolic, and the OP kills his own arguments with his wording and overdoing it, but he does have a point hidden under all that.

When most people just tolerate something, and don't care either way, and some people hate it, and a very small few love it, what's the risk in removing/altering it?

From a business perspective, GGG should be concerned that they have a major mechanic in-game that causes players to become frustrated, bored, or unhappy. People would likely not quit the game if the Lab were altered, removed, or made unnecessary for ascendancy points. People may however, quit due to frustrations over the Lab and it's mechanics. One option has no risk for GGG, just wasted time on development. The other option makes a loud subset of players happier, which is good for the game as a whole.

You think new players coming along seeing so many threads complaining about Lab is good for the health of the game? I certainly don't. I also don't think anyone would quit or stop spending money if Lab were changed. People may quit if Lab remains as-is however, or not spend money, etc.

GGG is a business, and they should do whatever is best for business. I can't imagine having "divisive content" is very good for business, in the long-term. Nor is it good for a game dev to cave to every whine or complaint on their forums. A balance must be struck, one I'm not seeing in this situation as of yet.