Zerphi + EA is broken (proof of concept, 60k - 100k heal per second)

blast rain mines + BA mines... generally mines are somethimg that a BV player should find a way to counter. mines& traps are the only thing that they lack a proper answer. I couldnt color my chest to proper colors yet. so i cant test myself vs fyndel now. but BA or blast rain mines(which has aoe overlapping shotgun possibility also) can one shot 20k ES thats what im sure of. i can one shot 17-18k ES without having proper colors. those are just theories and bla bla of course. i should duel and see the results

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dalb3 wrote:

There's no point in testing, fighting, or even arguing over if blade vortex is stronger than any other spell. It by far is the most broken of self cast spells and any guy off the street with a vinktar and rumis can beat 99% of players with it. I can't believe there is still humble-brags being uttered or even comparisons being made about this subject.

Hey guys, if anyone wants to get in their cars and race me just let me know, no one has beaten my time machine yet. Lapiz was the only one who touched me since he disabled my flux capacitor.

the humble-brag rights are there cause i am the only bladevortex guy that cant be beaten the last time i 3vs3 or CF i havent seen a single bladevortex guy neather in sarn arena there way more miners , melees and EA´s

come on guys, BV is just maximize ES + cast speed, walk around and kill people build. you dont even need much damage from tree. the way fyndel is most legit one but lets calm down and realize that BV gameplay requires no deep thinking, the theorycrafting part aof BV doesnt require any rocket science at all. BV is just too strong. totally out of balance. i played with it. i had 52k dps + 17k ES at lvl 92. while having 14-15 charges i was one shotting 15k ES builds. you just walk around, your cwdt + flame dash teleports you to nearest target and you one shot people around. you just gotta have very high movespeed while flasks on. its simple. vinktar + leech is also funny with BV. you are simply immortal while vinktar is on.

BV is just weak vs well built block builds, 75 block + aegis + strong tempest can be a problem for BV builds. though, you can just put RF on and yolo on your target. that works too. mines can be problem too but good micromanagement can solve that problem. firestorm can be a counter as well as lapiz said, fyndel might switch to rathpith + firestorm(or storm call i'd prefer storm call tbh) there and get huge advantage there over his opponent. while building a BV build, instead of spending points on 'physical damage, or 'light damage' getting more lobal modifiers like j'spell damage, cast speed, crit mult,' etc is the most important part, cause you cant just use BV as main.

well there are no BV's or LA's or whatever's around cause pvp is shit. i can just say im the only LA in pvp scene. who else is there? zakoniks? yeah thats all we got. its funny when lapiz is saying fyndel is having the best caster, as if there are any other active casters around

Rupenus, Aegis is not really a problem for well built BV. It just needs 2 BCR daggers and good damage, once you are over the threashold and aegis replenish is lower than the damage received it dies in 1-2-3 burst as well as anything else.

Yep, just replace shield for another block dagger and you're good.

I've mentioned it before, but I got a bv pathfinder in league with shit gear and no flasks yet, and the game is so easy I just stopped playing it entirely. I can't believe people get satisfaction from playing it like they are actually accomplishing something. Must be the same kids that got trophies for just showing up for their tee-ball games lol


Oh yeah I've been cracking up lately with all the kids complaining about bv crashing instances and losing maps because of it. Sogood

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Rupenus wrote:

blast rain mines + BA mines... generally mines are somethimg that a BV player should find a way to counter. mines& traps are the only thing that they lack a proper answer. I couldnt color my chest to proper colors yet. so i cant test myself vs fyndel now. but BA or blast rain mines(which has aoe overlapping shotgun possibility also) can one shot 20k ES thats what im sure of. i can one shot 17-18k ES without having proper colors. those are just theories and bla bla of course. i should duel and see the results

still feel like a simple 2link cwdt flamedash will counter both ba and brain mines if u got enough lifemana/ES to survive 1-2 hits

go try it out

So yeah just checked out fyndel's setup on both BV character and templar inquisitor for firestorm.

I have to say lapiz is wrong when saying he has the same damage as me, his gear is similar to mine if not inferior on quite a few pieces.

Both of the trees especially the firestorm build mainly focuses on energy shield and aura nodes while taking a few crit here and there, there is almost no investment into damage whatsoever. This is good with BV because of how unbalanced it is, you need 0 damage investment to 1 shot with it and can invest everything in ES.

While i dont use BV because i find it bullshit, my firestorm build deals double the damage of fyndel's and i'am not exagerating since i have MUCH more investment into damage/crit on the tree and more dmg via gear + counting low life 30% more sd.

Both of our specs are very different...

His setup = all into defenses, es + ci.

My setup = Most into damage + low life.

The +1 on his chest doesnt even make it close to my damage numbers, you need much more than just +1 level on firestorm, emp4 doesnt even upscale it that much.

Both have their goods but i will kill much faster than fyndel with firestorm that's for sure, so before making a statement out of nowhere that he has 18k es and literally the same dmg as me is absurb considering what i just saw.. please think a bit before saying without knowing....

Not saying fyndel's build is bad, wanted to make clear that both of our builds are very different, i could easily do the same and get 20k es if i'd go for CI and 900+ es chest and invest all into es nodes, easily.

Let me share a tip with you fyndel, you're using tempest shield which is good but why are you linking elemental focus to it ? 21/20 added lightning will add as much damage if not a bit more x-y high end. Elemental focus removes the possibility for you to proc shock status when blocking and criting, you should switch it over.

Glad i'm still the only and great low life crit caster out there ;), he can stick to CI.

Yeah I can say from experience that you are correct Haunt, I've tried and failed many times to outpot your firestorm, but I can outpot fyndel's consistently:

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dalb3 wrote:

Yeah I can say from experience that you are correct Haunt, I've tried and failed many times to outpot your firestorm, but I can outpot fyndel's consistently:

Shots fired...

Ahfack would have already been dead in the first 2 seconds standing in my firestorm, that's how stronger it is compared to fyndels and we already seen it many times before in sarn or ctf matches...

I counted 6 seconds total for him to die, totally proves that i'am right when saying his firestorm is NOWHERE as strong as mine...

Oh man i love you ahfack, couldnt have proved it better... <3

in pvp though, damage is: the damage you can deal before you die, so this equation makes things very complicated.

20K ES means, mines cant one shot you. (i can one shot 18k ES with perfect dps items, heavy dps investment on tree, i can ignite off my target but you knwo still i cant call it one shot)

20KES means, i cant 2 shot you from long range. so you cant get outmanevoured.

20K ES means, you can deal with a 200ex invested hot build.(only few builds cna deal ith that actually)
they can deal 8k damage per light attack which they have quite low interval in between. you have to at least be able to tank 16k ES damage be able to deal ith them.

the difference betweeen 300k dps and 500k dps is not that far. 9k ES vs 20k ES on the other hand can make big difference. pvp is not about the damage you can deal, pvp is about the damage you can deal until you die, before you die. (assuming the thing you attack is immortal)

with 20k ES you can keep initiating and initiating until you succeed. you can initiate and retreat and try again. with ll, 9k ES when you initiate, one of you gonna die for sure. in a game where rumi flasks exists, you cant 1-2 or 3 shot people if they invest on block(isnt that all we do?) so the best option is i believe, having a tanky char which you can initiate and survive multiple times. if there werent rumi flasks in the game, the tooltip damage would be very important in pvp for sure.

this debate between you and fyndel is becoming some kind of ego war, so i'd like to keep myself out of it. but i just would like to talk about how important beeing CI is in such broken pvp days.