ENOUGH with the Lab posts.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Perq wrote:

I'm fully aware of that. I wouldn't go as far as saying that ALL of these people care about the game as much, but most of them surly do. Siochan obviously doesn't, so that is at least one person.

Not only is that highly unlikely, due to what I just said, it's also a personal attack and not a little rude. Please try to leave the malice out of your posts in the future.

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Siochan wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

Are u kidding me with that Question??????

There are blind and deaf Tibetan monks in comas that know by now LAB is the worst thing ever added to POE.

Apparently, some people aren't that smart. That's why it's still in the game :/

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Perq wrote:

How is it a personal attack? Someone asking to remove part of the game, that many people like, just because some other players did not? How is that caring about the game, and not only about your own self?

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Perq wrote:

How is it a personal attack? Someone asking to remove part of the game, that many people like, just because some other players did not? How is that caring about the game, and not only about your own self?

Well, it's like saying there should be no alternative way to get the AC points and people should just accept that lab is there and should start learning it. I know some people who do exactly that. ;)

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Perq wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Perq wrote:

I'm fully aware of that. I wouldn't go as far as saying that ALL of these people care about the game as much, but most of them surly do. Siochan obviously doesn't, so that is at least one person.

Not only is that highly unlikely, due to what I just said, it's also a personal attack and not a little rude. Please try to leave the malice out of your posts in the future.

How is it a personal attack? Someone asking to remove part of the game, that many people like, just because some other players did not? How is that caring about the game, and not only about your own self?
This is nothing personal about it - it is just the nature of such statement, which I pointed out.

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Perq wrote:

The fact of you liking the game, or you not having an alternative does not matter.

Also, you are biased to think that Lab is a problem, in general. For many (if not most) people it isn't. Does this mean it shouldn't be looked into? No. But don't make it a demon it isn't.

I'd love to ask you to leave bias out of your posts.

EDIT: Think you'd like that. You call me rude, and you want my malice out of the posts?

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Perq wrote:

I can only hope that you know that I'm not one of these people.

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Perq wrote:

I'm fully aware of that. I wouldn't go as far as saying that ALL of these people care about the game as much, but most of them surly do....

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AceNightfire wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Just so.

If anything, the massive amount of Lab hate is an equally massive compliment to GGG. Given how deeply the hatred runs, the only reason GGG hasn't bled out is that its team created a game good enough that other games can't compete with it.

People aren't walking away from this game because they love it, even with a wart as large and obnoxious as the Labyrinth. That's something, right there.

Sorry, but that's nonsense, at least partly. You may interpret these massive amounts of threads as a compliment, because it shows how many people care about the game that GGG has created, but it's certainly not a compliment about the lab content that was also created by GGG. It just shows that dozens of people think that the game goes a wrong direction and they fear that GGG will go further ahead that road and keep implementing stuff that is forced upon the player because they gate character progression behind that content. And the argument, that this game may suffer a playerbase drop is quite realistic, because right now, you at least only have to do the lab 4 times per character. When they add another thing like the lab with character progression content, you will have to do that too and then they add another update with completely new gameplay and so on and on... At some point, you are forced to do alot of things to progress with your character which is not in line with the classic poe gameplay (gameplay before ascendency) and I really dont want to spent 50% of my time doing things like the lab. THis is not the case now, but it can be in the future, if (like I said) GGG keeps going down that road.

And that's why people are so concerned about this. Just imagine GGG would announce pre-leveled lvl 60 characters for real money. How many threads do you think would pop up? How much hate? People would fear that this game becomes pay2win even more in the future. When players are concerned about how a game develops over the time, they tend to open many threads and that's what happens with the lab content right now. Gating character progression is just not a good idea to force players to do certain content, just because GGG is so proud of their new child (labyrinth)...

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Xtorma wrote:

Actually, they already have a contingent of people that want lvl 60 characters in the cash shop, or just free to all who have already leveled 1 character to 60.

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sinfoniantuba11 wrote:

OP, you are not doing any good by posting yet another thread complaining about the problems with lab.