ENOUGH with the Lab posts.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

In limbo is an odd place to be.

The bully brigadiers have yet to bring a valid reason for hating the idea of having an alternative ascension method. It can only be schadenfreude or some similar condition. :(

Because they don't hate the idea of having an alternative ascension method? However GGG can't pull something out of their nose. They have to code and balance it... well nah, they only have to code it :P.

The thing is, they need to make a mechanic as involving as the lab, which needs a similar effort to get your points, they will very likely not hand them out for free. I suggested an arena, some form of gauntlet you have to battle through to get your points. They implemented a lot of uniques over time some of which even have connections. One Arena fight could be battling hordes of Bandits (similar to the Bakthrul fight) with all 3 of the bandits appearing at the end. Or a fight vs. Oriaths finest, which consist of all the Blackguards, Gravicus, Piety and Dominus. Thus fights could be incredible hard, but they would be what the people wanted, no traps, just fighting to get your points.

+1 OP

I recognize the lab is poor game design and the points should be moved. (but not made easier to get, this is a very important distinction)


But I also recognize when I've lost an argument and when it's time to accept that and move on.


Also +1 to the inherent irony of the OP. :P

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Pyrokar wrote:

Most of my posts are good natured satire. I wouldn't call that venting.

Also it has been proven by analyzing the authors over the over 200 labyrinth threads in this forum that no one person has created countless threads about labyrinth.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

In limbo is an odd place to be.

The bully brigadiers have yet to bring a valid reason for hating the idea of having an alternative ascension method. It can only be schadenfreude or some similar condition. :(

Assuming you sort me into your concept of a "bully brigade", I think you're confusing the meaning of posts like mine in these threads.

I have no objection to decoupling ascendancy points from lab (in fact, I'm in support of that solution), nor do I particularly like the lab due to the constant crashes/disconnects I get (which I would really like GGG to address). My objection to these constant posts is that there is almost never any new discussion being had, the same points are being raised again and again, it always devolves into a flame war, and it clutters the forum up with pages and pages of vitriol. I think that it makes more sense just to keep one primary lab discussion thread open to consolidate arguments and reduce clutter.

I'm sure GGG has received the message many times, and really would be well served by stating clearly whether they plan to make any changes or not. On the other hand, you also need to understand that making changes to how ascendancy points are awarded and such may take time in development that they haven't had available, or they may want to implement a change when it fits better (such as in a major patch/expansion).

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Funkdubious wrote:

I think that it makes more sense just to keep one primary lab discussion thread open to consolidate arguments and reduce clutter.

I tend to agree with this sentiment. Unfortunately, since neither of us are the "king" of this forum nor do I know how to control what others do (or really want to :-) ), I guess we have to just deal with what we have?

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IceDeal wrote:

Seriously this is pure eye cancer and almost as worst as those indian spammers who show up from time to time with their voodoo spells to get back your loved ones or fix your computer.

I want to be able to read the forum, not the same thread made by the same players EVERY SINGLE DAY. Spamming the forum just make the community hates you as it's well known that GGG prefer to communicate on Reddit.

It won't achieve anything, you guys have been doing that for almost 6 months and nothing have or will change.
If it was really hurting their business, GGG would have reworked it by now. The fact they don't mean the game statistics shows that's the majority of the player base either like the lab or learned to cope with it so I suggest you guys to do the same thing or MOVE ON and stop to polute the forum, it's bad enough already.

good post. i agree with you.

on other boards multiple threads of the same topic typically get merged into one. but there isn't enough moderation on this forum. moderators need to do their job better. then we would not have 200 lab threads as is the present situation.

i like the lab for what it is worth :)

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

All it would take is to make the labyrinth a side area like D3's pony-land. Find an alternative to that frogger BS to access the ascendancy classes and everyone is happy! (Except the bully brigade of course, as they derive happiness from others' sadness)

Spoiler

The word 'enough' has no 't'

Yes, they should make an alternate way to get ascendency points. Have the Sarn Arena doors lock when 20 people have entered and battle it out. Last one standing gets Ascendency points. Players who already have them aren't allowed into the Arena to grief other players by knocking them out of the battle.

Seems fair enough. No more boring frogger or Izaro one shots. Plus it makes PvP relevant again.

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mark1030 wrote:

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

All it would take is to make the labyrinth a side area like D3's pony-land. Find an alternative to that frogger BS to access the ascendancy classes and everyone is happy! (Except the bully brigade of course, as they derive happiness from others' sadness)

Spoiler

The word 'enough' has no 't'

Yes, they should make an alternate way to get ascendency points. Have the Sarn Arena doors lock when 20 people have entered and battle it out. Last one standing gets Ascendency points. Players who already have them aren't allowed into the Arena to grief other players by knocking them out of the battle.

Seems fair enough. No more boring frogger or Izaro one shots. Plus it makes PvP relevant again.

Actually, I don't like PVP play but like this unique suggestion! It would be far superior to the current labyrinth. (Of course, almost anything would be better than that boring tedious monstrosity.) I'm going to copy this to Regulator's thread in the hopes that he adds it to the list.

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IceDeal wrote:

Seriously this is pure eye cancer and almost as worst as those indian spammers who show up from time to time with their voodoo spells to get back your loved ones or fix your computer.

I want to be able to read the forum, not the same thread made by the same players EVERY SINGLE DAY. Spamming the forum just make the community hates you as it's well known that GGG prefer to communicate on Reddit.

It won't achieve anything, you guys have been doing that for almost 6 months and nothing have or will change.
If it was really hurting their business, GGG would have reworked it by now. The fact they don't mean the game statistics shows that's the majority of the player base either like the lab or learned to cope with it so I suggest you guys to do the same thing or MOVE ON and stop to polute the forum, it's bad enough already.

The lab posts will go away as soon as people aren't dealing with the problems associated with lab.

We don't get the option of moving on beyond lab, because our characters progression is gated behind it. At least you have the option of ignoring these posts. Consider yourself fortunate.