Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Just go in way over leveled. Its really easy. Like I did normal at 75 this ladder. and cruels right after that. I'll do merc at 85 or eariler if I get some lab quest from that chick.

Bottom line it's way over tuned so you defeat that by being over tuned as well.


Don't get played, play.

Just to address this type of response and attitude- The solution to a subpar mechanic should not be that players need to "git gud" and deal with it. That's poor game design, and I assure you the devs don't even look at it that way.

Boring, time-consuming mechanics are still boring and time-consuming even after you "git gud".

Not trying to start an argument or attack those with that opinion, just making clear that I accounted for it in my own statement, and disregarded it as immaterial to the subject at hand. Anyone can get good enough to take on any content in any game, with enough time, effort, farming, practice, etc. This fact however does not make all game content ever created perfect in it's original form, just because it can be done.

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Sardekar wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Just go in way over leveled. Its really easy. Like I did normal at 75 this ladder. and cruels right after that. I'll do merc at 85 or eariler if I get some lab quest from that chick.

Bottom line it's way over tuned so you defeat that by being over tuned as well.


Don't get played, play.

Just to address this type of response and attitude- The solution to a subpar mechanic should not be that players need to "git gud" and deal with it. That's poor game design, and I assure you the devs don't even look at it that way.

Boring, time-consuming mechanics are still boring and time-consuming even after you "git gud".

Not trying to start an argument or attack those with that opinion, just making clear that I accounted for it in my own statement, and disregarded it as immaterial to the subject at hand. Anyone can get good enough to take on any content in any game, with enough time, effort, farming, practice, etc. This fact however does not make all game content ever created perfect in it's original form, just because it can be done.

GGGs communication needs to git gud as well. Still crickets on their own forums about this entire lab debacle.

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Prebornfetus wrote:

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Sardekar wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Just go in way over leveled. Its really easy. Like I did normal at 75 this ladder. and cruels right after that. I'll do merc at 85 or eariler if I get some lab quest from that chick.

Bottom line it's way over tuned so you defeat that by being over tuned as well.


Don't get played, play.

Just to address this type of response and attitude- The solution to a subpar mechanic should not be that players need to "git gud" and deal with it. That's poor game design, and I assure you the devs don't even look at it that way.

Boring, time-consuming mechanics are still boring and time-consuming even after you "git gud".

Not trying to start an argument or attack those with that opinion, just making clear that I accounted for it in my own statement, and disregarded it as immaterial to the subject at hand. Anyone can get good enough to take on any content in any game, with enough time, effort, farming, practice, etc. This fact however does not make all game content ever created perfect in it's original form, just because it can be done.

GGGs communication needs to git gud as well. Still crickets on their own forums about this entire lab debacle.

Perhaps they don't see the lab as a failure.

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Xtorma wrote:

Perhaps they don't see the lab as a failure.

Perhaps they should.

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ShaUrley wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Perhaps they don't see the lab as a failure.

Perhaps they should.

Or not. Either way, game goes on , and I still have my fun.

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Xtorma wrote:

Or not. Either way, game goes on , and I still have my fun.

Yes, the dogs bark, but the caravan goes on. And if the Lab/AC stays as it is, you may have fun staying on the caravan, but I will be with the dogs.

well, the lab HAD to be different to mapping. in that it has succeeded.

it does not feel like fun though, not for me. I did it a few times, then I adopted the " buy a carry so I can waste the least amount of time on that shite" attitude. and I never ever enter the lab after..
ggg has improved rewards, but that does not fix the core issues with the lab. I think the way they wanted the lab is just not fun for a lot of players.
in my personal case there are 2 problems:
1) I do not like traps in POE.
2) that lab takes too long to finish. some of us have lives.

fixing nr 2 should be easy, just add 2 one-use waypoints or some such ( make it so if u die it deactivates or whatever so they only work when u quit on purpose.)

fixing nr 1... not sure how they would go about that. Personally I would much prefer a critter based lab
.. use mods, traps that gate in critters, map mods, league mods, whatever.. you could make a pretty decent lab using just critters, mods changing every day, some builds doing better/worse depending on mods, some having to adapt a bit.. for example: lots of allies cannot die mobs=> culling strike, lots of reflect mobs=> some poison etc.. extra lighting damage: that purity aura, lots of beyond mobs=> might not want to one-shot screens, spawning areas that add mobs=> u need to hurry to the exit, .. etc..

in its current form, I think its bad practice from ggg to alienate part of its users, case in point, I fired up a different game yesterday, kinda bored with maps ( even though havent completed beyond t13 ) and for me there is nothing else to do other than zana missions which I still find fun. am waiting for next league start, either they fix the lab or they add something else to do as high level or will have to join the crowd moving elsewhere.

GGG are becoming that entity on Dr who that plagued the doctor for much time....The Silence

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Prebornfetus wrote:

GGG are becoming that entity on Dr who that plagued the doctor for much time....The Silence

They are not being silent. They have already told you and your crusade that they have no plans at this time to remove asc points from the lab, although they are not particularly adverse to removing them. When, or if they decide change this, they will post about it.

You and your crusade have your answer already, you just don't like it, so you ignore it and then accuse GGG of not addressing your concerns.

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Xtorma wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

GGG are becoming that entity on Dr who that plagued the doctor for much time....The Silence

They are not being silent. They have already told you and your crusade that they have no plans at this time to remove asc points from the lab, although they are not particularly adverse to removing them. When, or if they decide change this, they will post about it.

You and your crusade have your answer already, you just don't like it, so you ignore it and then accuse GGG of not addressing your concerns.

They posted something I missed or u referring to that video where they dont really say much of anything specific. What we want isnt hard. Come to ur official forums and give us hope or closure