Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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El6t6one wrote:

I will never play poe as long as the stupid trap "gameplay" exists. Its 100% the opposite of what I want to do when I'm playing poe. Thanks but no thanks.

Not only that but any chance I get to shittalk the decision to put stupid platformer/trap gameplay into an arpg to anyone I will take. Because its that stupid and takes poe from being miles better than any other option in the genre to being.... tied with D3 for "you only play this because lots of people do" levels of shite.

Brutal bosses or increased difficulty through not being able to tp in and out? Fine by me if that's the direction. At least that's in keeping with the core game that I've enjoyed on and off for however many years.

Move, stop, move, stop, jokeass platforming in my arpg? Snap uninstalled and never ever coming back while that is part of the game, I don't care how cool the next league sounds/is.

Thank you for posting your feedback here on the Feedback and Suggestions forum about what a horrible addition Labyrinth is to PoE. It is a foreign game play unlike any other part of the game. I've added you to the list, now 703 names. Here's El6t6one's profile information.

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Zloberik wrote:

Thats understandable, some people love adrenalin rushes, i prefer them in PvP games only, dying to PVE content is too humiliating for me.

Why is that ?
There will always be PvE content somewhere that you cannot beat.

Have you ever tried to beat the strongest chess simulator that there is, as an example ?

You might want to fix your expectations regarding to this, if you the level is too high for you, it's no big deal, it's just a game.

it's unlikely the lab will ever be changed but i am hoping for a few checkpoints some day. getting dc in the treasure room is not fun.

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"Have you proven that all threads in the list are not alt accounts"

the burden of proof is on the user(s) claiming the accounts in the list are alt accounts.
if you make a claim you prove your claim. but no... the logic of some users here...

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kompaniet wrote:

the burden of proof is on the user(s) claiming the accounts in the list are alt accounts.
if you make a claim you prove your claim. but no... the logic of some users here...

There is no such thing as "buden of proof" here.
If Turte wants to have any impact on GGG and the community so that that the lab change, he should probably show that the list is significant = very few alt accounts.

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Fruz wrote:

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kompaniet wrote:

the burden of proof is on the user(s) claiming the accounts in the list are alt accounts.
if you make a claim you prove your claim. but no... the logic of some users here...

There is no such thing as "buden of proof" here.
If Turte wants to have any impact on GGG and the community so that that the lab change, he should probably show that the list is significant = very few alt accounts.

Yes, and even then 700 people is a tiny number. Change the Lab and piss off the rest potentially. For what? So 700 people don't like the game, okay, play something else.

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

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Xavathos wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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kompaniet wrote:

the burden of proof is on the user(s) claiming the accounts in the list are alt accounts.
if you make a claim you prove your claim. but no... the logic of some users here...

There is no such thing as "buden of proof" here.
If Turte wants to have any impact on GGG and the community so that that the lab change, he should probably show that the list is significant = very few alt accounts.

Yes, and even then 700 people is a tiny number. Change the Lab and piss off the rest potentially. For what? So 700 people don't like the game, okay, play something else.

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

well said! with that i can agree.

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Xavathos wrote:

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

Aren't you thankful?

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Xavathos wrote:

Yes, and even then 700 people is a tiny number. Change the Lab and piss off the rest potentially. For what? So 700 people don't like the game, okay, play something else.

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

People posting on the Feedback and Suggestions forum is a small percentage of the people that play PoE. 700 is a large number when considering that and when compared with any other issue brought up in the Feedback and Suggestions forum. Your argument basically says that the Feedback and Suggestion forum is completely useless since there has probably never been so many threads and people saying something needs to be fixed/changed/improved.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Yes, and even then 700 people is a tiny number. Change the Lab and piss off the rest potentially. For what? So 700 people don't like the game, okay, play something else.

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

People posting on the Feedback and Suggestions forum is a small percentage of the people that play PoE. 700 is a large number when considering that and when compared with any other issue brought up in the Feedback and Suggestions forum. Your argument basically says that the Feedback and Suggestion forum is completely useless since there has probably never been so many threads and people saying something needs to be fixed/changed/improved.

You say this, but provide nothing to prove your point, you just make a statement as if it were proven as a fact, without doing the leg work.

So, if you want to prove your point, go back and look at all the trade threads, all of the desync threads, all of the xp\death penalty threads, you won't because its a significant amount of work, but more importantly you won't because it will make the lab look like a tiny tiny issue.

You are also forgetting 1 other important aspect, those things listed above are things that are "not working right" or similar, whereas the fact that you have 700 people disliking the lab is fine because GGG specifically said they don't mind if you don't like it because you do it for the reward.

Furthermore, I love your quest in this, considering you've easily spent multiple hours more doing this then you would have ever spent playing the lab on your characters in standard.

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Fruz wrote:

There is no such thing as "buden of proof" here.
If Turte wants to have any impact on GGG and the community so that that the lab change, he should probably show that the list is significant = very few alt accounts.

Of course there are very few duplicated alt accounts in that list -- to claim otherwise is absurd. But a "proof" won't change anyone's mind. It will simply push the argument back to "many of the posters weren't really complaining about the lab", or "they were complaining about different aspects of the lab", or "what they were complaining about has since been fixed" or...

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Xavathos wrote:

Yes, and even then 700 people is a tiny number. Change the Lab and piss off the rest potentially. For what? So 700 people don't like the game, okay, play something else.

...as if those 700 posters (and the posters on other forums) weren't representative of a much larger group of players who don't like being forced to play the lab.

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Xavathos wrote:

GGG created this game in their vision, we are privileged to go along for the ride.

Yes, it's indeed true that we are being taken for a ride by GGG with the lab. ;)

It seems clear from a few offhand comments in some recent podcasts (and their otherwise deafening silence) that GGG is aware of the widespread unpopularity of the lab. Probably they don't require "proof" either. It is, of course, entirely up to them whether they change anything in 3.0 or (most likely) stick stubbornly to their vision.

GGG has, however, painted themselves into a corner by the way they released the lab with ascendancy classes. If they were to make changes now to how ascendancies are granted (and no one is asking to remove the lab entirely), it will certainly be at the expense of pissing off a couple of dozen posters on this forum, but I guess they will be able to go play something else. ;)