[3.17] The Warchief | [Facebreaker] Ancestral Warchief | Uber Boss Farmer | Beginner -> Expert

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dramfan wrote:

Enjoying the build, but I wanted to check on how high to level my skill gems.

I see different values in PoB and in the items you attached in the Gear section.

Can you confirm what levels the skill gems should be leveled up to?

Here is what I see in PoB (and if your Gear section is different I will add its value in the right column).

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scorflex wrote:

Hello, i started levelling this build and i have a maybe stupid question : we play with herald of purity, but when our totems kills a mob, the is no sentinel of purity summoned, is it normal ? We only play it for melee damage buff ?

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thoo00 wrote:

I have been following this build for this league. And i have been looking through the recent posts, trying to optimise my build.

Regarding Ancestral Warchief 6L gems, is Multiple totems support better than melee physical damage support? (saw that the OP replaced it). However on POB, theres a drastic increase of DPS if i use melee physical damage support instead and a sharp drop in DPS if i use Multiple totem support. I google some past threads and they mentioned more than 3+ totems its not worth using multiple totems support too. (I can have a max of 5 totems if using +1 max totem shield and Multiple totem support. )

I field trial it, somehow i feel melee physical damage support hits harder but slower. Multiple totem supports hit much faster and offers better clearing speed, it seems.

Anyone can offer some insights?

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the_overmind92 wrote:

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thoo00 wrote:

I have been following this build for this league. And i have been looking through the recent posts, trying to optimise my build.

Regarding Ancestral Warchief 6L gems, is Multiple totems support better than melee physical damage support? (saw that the OP replaced it). However on POB, theres a drastic increase of DPS if i use melee physical damage support instead and a sharp drop in DPS if i use Multiple totem support. I google some past threads and they mentioned more than 3+ totems its not worth using multiple totems support too. (I can have a max of 5 totems if using +1 max totem shield and Multiple totem support. )

I field trial it, somehow i feel melee physical damage support hits harder but slower. Multiple totem supports hit much faster and offers better clearing speed, it seems.

Anyone can offer some insights?

Multiple Totem support has a LESS modifier while Melee Physical Totem has a MORE modifier.

BUT increasing totem counts itself was a MORE modifier that didn't calculated by PoB.

Going from one totem to two was a 100% more. Two to three was 50% more. Three to four was a 33% more. Four to five was 25% more. Five to Six was a 20% more...

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In the case of bossing with a +1 totem shield and an Ancestral Protector as buff, your Warchiefs are limited to two by default.

If you're using melee physical (49% MORE, 10% LESS AS),
Assuming 1 APS:
2 Warchief x 1.49 x 0.9 = 2.682

With Multiple Totem (21% LESS with +2 Totems):
4 Warchief x 0.79 = 3.16

If my math isn't wrong, using a Multiple Totem may give you slightly more DPS than melee physical in this senario.

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When not using Ancestral protector as buff,

If you're using melee physical (49% MORE, 10% LESS AS),
Assuming 1 APS:
3 Warchief x 1.49 x 0.9 = 4.023

With Multiple Totem (21% LESS with +2 Totems):
5 Warchief x 0.79 = 3.95

Melee Physical Damage is stronger in this case.

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DISCLAIMER: MY CALCULATION MIGHT BE INCORRECT.
I'm not really sure how to calculate the Less damage modifier in Melee Physical Support.

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raptor142h wrote:

Is Ryslatha's Coil a good choice for this build?