[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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YANGGGG wrote:
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YANGGGG wrote:
I noticed my damage is really lacking as compared..

Sitting at 3292 - 9755 (with golems and pendulum)

Sitting on 1622 int,7.8k ES

Please do advice on what i could improve on!

Make your characters public.



Hey Kelvynn, thanks for the help! Have just made it public.

Appreciate your advice![/quote]

So far I can suggest you only something which will cost you no less than 25 exalts..
anyway as I said early - GGG killed the fun out of this build by making it impossible to play against some bosses even on the hyped super expensive version of the build with 11k ES..

GGG slowly destroying the fun of the game.. idk why.. :|
With the "1h 6L wipe" the PoE turns to a joke now.
There is no sane reason for one to play it any further.
Last edited by SonicPLD2#7668 on May 9, 2017, 10:11:27 AM
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YANGGGG wrote:
Hey Kelvynn, thanks for the help! Have just made it public.

Appreciate your advice!

Umm... Unless it's some kinda website bug, you don't have Paragon of Calamity - the very first Ascendancy you should have taken. If that's not a bug, do Uber Lab ASAP and take Paragon. It's going to be harder without Paragon than without Mastermind (that should have been the last one).

Your items are good, especially the jewels. Swap the gems in the helmet and boots, you are wasting the +1 level bonus. Get the leech enchant for the boots.

Just finish leveling your gems.

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SonicPLD2 wrote:
GGG killed the fun out of this build by making it impossible to play against some bosses even on the hyped super expensive version of the build with 11k ES..

What bosses are you having trouble with? I had no problems killing anything with 8.5k ES after 2 weeks in this league. The 2.6 video shows just the token 3 bosses, but the rest are not any different from the 2.5 video, especially if you have the gear similar to mine in that one.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on May 9, 2017, 11:53:17 AM
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Black_Gun wrote:
the shaper (and all guardians) have 80% reduced curse effectiveness instead of the usual 60%. so a 21/20 temp chains slows the shaper by a whoopin 8(!) percent....

Actually, I have doubts that PoEdb interprets the data correctly. On paper, all of T16 have this -80% curse efficiency. That includes the Hydra. But the difference made by TC vs Hydra is very noticeable, it doesn't look like she's just 8% slower.

There are many other things listed on PoEdb that don't seem to reflect the actual encounters. For example, according to PoEdb, Shaper's beam deals lightning damage as well as cold and fire - and that's definitely not true.

It's just some mined data, but there are more things in play (the code, the mechanics, perhaps some additional parameters that were not listed).
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on May 9, 2017, 12:09:18 PM
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Kelvynn wrote:

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SonicPLD2 wrote:
GGG killed the fun out of this build by making it impossible to play against some bosses even on the hyped super expensive version of the build with 11k ES..

What bosses are you having trouble with? I had no problems killing anything with 8.5k ES after 2 weeks in this league. The 2.6 video shows just the token 3 bosses, but the rest are not any different from the 2.5 video, especially if you have the gear similar to mine in that one.

He seems to be trolling outa here, don't pay attention to his posts.
Kelvynn, i corrupted x2 CWC and i got


Which one is BIS ?

23Q seems more dps and 0.35s cast but the 21/20 has 0.34s cast when i put in my +1 helmet


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Last edited by redix27#0903 on May 10, 2017, 11:34:40 AM
Thank you very much for your excellent guide, it's really well-written and very helpful, and I enjoyed it a lot. I just respecced into your build and CI after obtaining a Whispering Ice, just tested it and am really enjoying it a lot. Thank you.

Can I ask some questions from my newb perspective?


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Kelvynn wrote:

8.5k


1. How did you get that much ES? I only have about 6k :-/ With so many uniques, there also doesn't seem to be that much room for getting Int on gear without spending a lot (yet), but... if I "only" have a 12% Black Sun Crest, is that still better than a decent ES helm?
2. How can a newb like me see how far my Blasphemy radius extends? I'm not sure how close I need to get.
3. Just wondering if this is a really stupid idea or acceptable: How useful is Enfeeble in saving my life against bosses? I was wondering if it were viable to switch out Enfeeble (blue gem) and Flammability? My main problems seem to be in getting overwhelmed or 1-2 shotted by bosses.
4. I have not yet invested the large amounts of regrets to undo my poor bandit choices from my previous build yet, so I am missing some points, and I have not invested as much into gear and gems as I could, but do you think my character (Elektrizitas) is doing ok for 79?

Thank you!
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Kelvynn wrote:
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YANGGGG wrote:
Hey Kelvynn, thanks for the help! Have just made it public.

Appreciate your advice!

Umm... Unless it's some kinda website bug, you don't have Paragon of Calamity - the very first Ascendancy you should have taken. If that's not a bug, do Uber Lab ASAP and take Paragon. It's going to be harder without Paragon than without Mastermind (that should have been the last one).

Your items are good, especially the jewels. Swap the gems in the helmet and boots, you are wasting the +1 level bonus. Get the leech enchant for the boots.

Just finish leveling your gems.

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SonicPLD2 wrote:
GGG killed the fun out of this build by making it impossible to play against some bosses even on the hyped super expensive version of the build with 11k ES..

What bosses are you having trouble with? I had no problems killing anything with 8.5k ES after 2 weeks in this league. The 2.6 video shows just the token 3 bosses, but the rest are not any different from the 2.5 video, especially if you have the gear similar to mine in that one.


Standard - i am never speaking about leagues.
With the "1h 6L wipe" the PoE turns to a joke now.
There is no sane reason for one to play it any further.
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Windgaming wrote:
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Kelvynn wrote:

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SonicPLD2 wrote:
GGG killed the fun out of this build by making it impossible to play against some bosses even on the hyped super expensive version of the build with 11k ES..

What bosses are you having trouble with? I had no problems killing anything with 8.5k ES after 2 weeks in this league. The 2.6 video shows just the token 3 bosses, but the rest are not any different from the 2.5 video, especially if you have the gear similar to mine in that one.

He seems to be trolling outa here, don't pay attention to his posts.


Trolling ?! Yeah ?! How did you decide this ? based on what ?
With the "1h 6L wipe" the PoE turns to a joke now.
There is no sane reason for one to play it any further.
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redix27 wrote:
Kelvynn, i corrupted x2 CWC and i got


Which one is BIS ?

23Q seems more dps and 0.35s cast but the 21/20 has 0.34s cast when i put in my +1 helmet

21/20 is BiS. It makes Icestorm proc every 0.34s (it gains a level in the staff and effectively becomes lv 22) which is equal to 3% MORE damage as cast speed.
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onomastikon wrote:
1. How did you get that much ES? I only have about 6k :-/ With so many uniques, there also doesn't seem to be that much room for getting Int on gear without spending a lot (yet), but... if I "only" have a 12% Black Sun Crest, is that still better than a decent ES helm?
2. How can a newb like me see how far my Blasphemy radius extends? I'm not sure how close I need to get.
3. Just wondering if this is a really stupid idea or acceptable: How useful is Enfeeble in saving my life against bosses? I was wondering if it were viable to switch out Enfeeble (blue gem) and Flammability? My main problems seem to be in getting overwhelmed or 1-2 shotted by bosses.
4. I have not yet invested the large amounts of regrets to undo my poor bandit choices from my previous build yet, so I am missing some points, and I have not invested as much into gear and gems as I could, but do you think my character (Elektrizitas) is doing ok for 79?

1. The exact gear and tree is in the top post, and you can see the char in my profile too (Ice_Legacy). I haven't upgraded the char since posting the video, it's the same as it was by the end of it.

2. You can see the orange WM glyph on the mobs around you. Go to Dried Lake for a walk, it has the best mob density, you can see exactly how far your aura reaches.

3. Enfeeble is a life saver, especially against the bosses, even though they partially mitigate curses. Replacing it with Flammability will only result in more death.

4. You skipped the jewel socket near Vaal Pact, get that ASAP (Fertile Mind). Converting Dex and Str to Int is very important. You took Catalyse way too early but skipped Ancestral Knowledge, bad choice. You are 3 nodes away from Unwavering Stance, get it next and you won't get 'overwhelmed' (stunned?) a lot.

12% Black Sun is too low. Get a better one, or even use Doedre's Scorn if your Int is still under 1300 as I suspect it is. I hope you use CE against bosses, you aren't quite ready to MF in high tiers yet.

Your gloves are from some other CI build, but they are terrible for this one. Int is everything, get Int gloves. Lightning golem is useless with SR-CwC. If you can't color the gloves RRRG (the cheap and easy method has been linked several times in the last 10 pages here), at least use Chaos.

Your chest is also not good for this build. No Int = bad. 6L is cool though. At least craft 30 Int on it (Catarina).

And of course you'll need a better belt. But for lv 79 the rest of your gear is OK. You just lack a massive amount of Int because of the tree and gear issues mentioned above. And Int gives you ES and DPS/leech. Fix your Int and you will fix your problems.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on May 10, 2017, 1:53:31 PM

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