[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

I got another question,
You get tri-curse when using doedre ring and 2 with perandus correct?
Or am I missing something?
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Nooobie765 wrote:
would incinerate with gmp good since the coverage is massive?! :D


no?! how do you want to get coverage with incinerate without lmp/gmp, for which we have no room?

incinerate sucks ass, SR is the only reasonable choice for the channeling skill to trigger icestorms via cwc.


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Cats_Paw wrote:
I got another question,
You get tri-curse when using doedre ring and 2 with perandus correct?
Or am I missing something?


yes, thats correct unless one is using an amulet with the "enemies can have an additional curse" corruption. in that case, you can run a tricurse setup plus double perandus.
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SonicPLD2 wrote:
I just wish to post a warning that this build is not much Boss fighter, and it hardly handing the late Atlas bosses.

Some of them is a big no-no for this build, even for the special kind of this build which having 12k ES.

The example of what this build can do in T16 with 12k ES is in the demo video.

Let me guess - your 'special kind' achieves 12k ES by trading something important for more ES? And then T16 bosses become a 'no-no' for you, but you don't understand why. If you want to fix it, make your chars public and ask questions instead of claiming something that's obviously not true.


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Rnew1990 wrote:
I have literally face tanked almost every boss with pretty nasty mods except corrupted lair map.. that dude fucks me up for some reason

Can't leech from the wolf. You need to either destroy him before he turns into the wolf or run from the wolf and kill him after he turns back to normal.


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sufferot wrote:
Well, I can see why that guy thinks that this build is bad at boss fighting. I have the problems with guardians just because I don't have enough experince with them. Well, minotaur is a joke, jjust avoid his digging move. For chimera - I have a problems on clouds phase, but I got a nasty gem (not vaal discipline), and it helps me dealing with that. Atm I have problems with hydra (stupid mob don't want to stand still and take damage as a big boy) and phoenix (ffs, -max rez curse is a nasty thing). Any tips on them?

Oh, and btw, Kelvinn. If this build will not survive 3.0 - will you rehash it to fit there? I really like the playstyle, never was fond of speed clearing, and this build makes me happy a lot.

Actually, even Mino Burrow is not that bad. It does only a little more damage than his Smash. The key is to have Icestorms going and countering any +dmg/vuln mods.

For the Chimera fog phase, you need long duration flasks that give movespeed and phys mitigation (listed in the boss guide). 6 sec is more than enough if you use them properly (pop them when you see him appear and attack after the adds are dead, the fog phase starts in 1 sec).

Phoenix isn't too bad even with -maxres, but then you need not only PoF but also Ruby flasks to use when he starts the explosion animation. And avoid doing Phoenix with +life mods or in a party, or get away from him when he's about to explode. His explosion damage seems to depend on his max life.

Hydra just takes practice to get used to. There are safe zones between the flying iceball lines and at the end of their trajectories (they expire shortly before the opposite edge of the arena). Once you learn to position in a way that you almost never get hit and remember to always have a fresh Orb popped near Hydra after she moves - it becomes pretty easy.

We'll see what happens in 3.0. I'll try to get into the Beta when it starts.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 12, 2017, 5:02:17 PM
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Black_Gun wrote:
when I have the choice between boots with 170ES, 45 res and t2 int, and boots with 150ES, 45 res and t1 int, I'd always take the first ones...

I disagree. I'd pick the latter.

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t2 int can always be divined up to 49 or 50 int.

Most such boots aren't worth several divines, it may be cheaper to just buy another pair. You need to roll not just 49-50 Int but also the top of the ES range. That may take quite a few divines and be totally not worth it. So it's a good idea only if the boots are very high ES (and cost at least a few exalts).

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btw is anyone else also having the impression that buying int es boots is a particular pain this season? even last league when howa builds were also around, I didnt have that much trouble finding a suitable pair of boots for a reasonable price. this season, I can find 30ms 150ish ES boots with 40-60 res and t2 int for around 6 ex, but anything above that, even the same stats but with 170 es, is 10ex++ territory all of a sudden. 200+ es boots with similar stats go for upwards of 30ex...

Yep. Thank HOWA for that. Master crafting my Standard boots (it cost me 23ex and a bit of luck)

doesn't look like something that you should only do when you have too much currency anymore, does it?
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Nooobie765 wrote:
would incinerate with gmp good since the coverage is massive?! :D

You don't need to hit anything with the skill used to proc Icestorm, GMP would be a waste of a gem.

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Cats_Paw wrote:
I got another question,
You get tri-curse when using doedre ring and 2 with perandus correct?
Or am I missing something?

The build uses both Doedre and Perandus with 3 curses. The 3rd curse comes from Whispers of Doom.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 12, 2017, 4:58:28 PM
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Kelvynn wrote:
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Black_Gun wrote:
when I have the choice between boots with 170ES, 45 res and t2 int, and boots with 150ES, 45 res and t1 int, I'd always take the first ones...

I disagree. I'd pick the latter.


Yeah, I was probably a bit too unspecific: I meant boots with a high-rolled t2 int. I would prefer boots with 170ES, 45 res and 49-50 int over ones with 150ES, 45 res and 51-55 int.



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t2 int can always be divined up to 49 or 50 int.

Most such boots aren't worth several divines, it may be cheaper to just buy another pair. You need to roll not just 49-50 Int but also the top of the ES range. That may take quite a few divines and be totally not worth it. So it's a good idea only if the boots are very high ES (and cost at least a few exalts).



yes, ofc we're talking about items that are worth diving. but sometimes there is a steal. for example, just today after bitching about the horrible boot prices this season, I was able to snag nice ones for 45c with low rolls on all stats. 6 divines later, they look like this:


quite the steal for a combined price of 1.2ex. ;-)



btw your boots on standard are OBSCENE!


edit: for those wondering: the gems in my boots are part of my mapping setup, I'd ofc swap to a different setup for tough content.
Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Apr 12, 2017, 5:10:00 PM
Hello, could someone take a look at my character and suggest some upgrades? I have around 100c to spend, I guess a new chest would be nice.

Respeced from necromancer into this so I havent been able to invest so much into it yet.

Thanks for the build and for any suggestions!:)
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Machinehead666 wrote:
Hello, could someone take a look at my character and suggest some upgrades? I have around 100c to spend, I guess a new chest would be nice.

Respeced from necromancer into this so I havent been able to invest so much into it yet.

Thanks for the build and for any suggestions!:)

I don't know about 100c, but you need to change everything but the staff, Astra and Black Sun. Even if you can't max resists without a ring yet, that ring should be 50+ Int and have dual res mods. Your chest, gloves and belt are worthless for this build (whoever vaaled that belt ruined it), and the boots are semi-OK but too low ES and resists.

Are you really short on jeweller orbs? Less than 6S in the staff is only OK for leveling and low tier maps, but you gotta have 6S if you are serious about anything above T10.

You currently can't even use 3 curses because you don't have Doedre's Damning. So if you are using 2 curses then replace the green socket (TC) in your chest with red (CWDT lv1) and use the correct level Ball Lightning with it (lv 4).

I'm afraid you can't make this endgame ready with only 100c. That's like 1ex in this league.
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Black_Gun wrote:




quite the steal for a combined price of 1.2ex. ;-)



Looks like I learn something new about POE every day. How did you get 32% movement speed?
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Graiaule wrote:
Looks like I learn something new about POE every day. How did you get 32% movement speed?

Essence of Zeal. Somebody rolled high ms boots but hit T2 Int and decided to sell them (wise decision), although they could probably fetch more than 1.2 ex for that.

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