General Discussion - When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he? - Forum

" Shagsbeard wrote: Yep. I've made characters that trivialize him too. Not the point. Character progress (in this case ascendancy points) are gated behind content that many characters can't complete. That is really frustrating for someone who puts in time to get to that level and then has no avenue to complete it. P(l)ayers quit over less. That is bad for the future of GGG. Edit: "Practice makes perfect" doesn't work if you have to put in 20-30 minutes to get to a fight that's over in 5 seconds. this i agree a lot with and shagsbeard been here for aeons. i disagree with a lot of things you say but this hits the nail on the head regarding the main issue of running merc or even uberlab. it has no inbetweens , you cheese it or get cheesed and anyone tht claims asccandy points are optional is a fool or simply trolling.	Posted by Kechop#5316 on Jul 2, 2016, 6:25:47 PM Quote this Post
" Skellimancer wrote: Lab is the final straw for many of us. Ascendancy was a mistake. I just wonder how long they will run with this train wreck.	Posted by Siochan#3258 on Jul 3, 2016, 3:44:34 AM Quote this Post
" Skellimancer wrote: Ascendancy was a mistake. I agree. It detracts from everything PoE has otherwise, skill tree inclusive. They should rework the ascendancy classes into main tree keystones and render lab completely optional for the people who actually feel like doing it. As-is, Ascendancy was a disaster area and still is. People who don't like the Labyrinth are not a minority: Be heard - say you don't like it in your signature. Don't leave complaining about lab to others - GGG needs to see how many people dislike it. Ascendancy must be gated on true ARPG content, not a poorly-crafted internet Legend of Zelda wannabe.	Posted by TheLastZica#2523 on Jul 3, 2016, 9:09:51 AM Quote this Post
People who dislike the lab/trials are indeed just a vocal minority. 49% shout and bawl about the lab. 51% are playing Overwatch. Statistics, they can work wonders for your cause. Casually casual.	Posted by TheAnuhart#4741 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:32:10 AM Quote this Post
I actually like the lab, but when u have 1 chance at the uber lab per frag piece and u get freaking disconnected and loose it, that part pisses me off. IGN RighteousRom LvL-100 Juggernaut Mirror Drop T-14 Shrine	Posted by Romulas19#3393 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:39:48 AM Quote this Post
" Crimnór wrote: " TriniGamer wrote: ^ yeah except that D3 has no trading, builds are dog shit and you are geared to the teeth for playing for just 12 minutes. Even in D3, getting the GG stuff takes a while. Sure, you get stuff that lets you run T10 / G60+ real fast. So what? PoE is not different. Once you hit Merc A4, you grind some Dried Lake, overlevel the Merc lab and after that it is really easy. Especially with trading, getting the items for your build is even easier in this game. " TriniGamer wrote: Your logic about a game sells most copies hence make it superior to another game is a very much dog shit logic. Because we all know Justin Bieber has like the best music nowadays or twilight is like the best movie ever. I never said it is superior. I never said it is better just because it sold more copies. What I said was that the game actually did good despite people like you claiming the opposite. And to be honest, it still does good today. At the start of a season there are plenty people to play with and then after a few weeks it falls off. Again, PoE is not different in that aspect. [Removed by Support] not really in the mood for arguing,but do you actually play diablo 3? Last edited by Melissa_GGG#0000 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:40:53 PM	Posted by Kasapnica#2414 on Jul 3, 2016, 9:09:27 PM Quote this Post
" Crimnór wrote: " TriniGamer wrote: ^ yeah except that D3 has no trading, builds are dog shit and you are geared to the teeth for playing for just 12 minutes. Even in D3, getting the GG stuff takes a while. Sure, you get stuff that lets you run T10 / G60+ real fast. So what? PoE is not different. Once you hit Merc A4, you grind some Dried Lake, overlevel the Merc lab and after that it is really easy. Especially with trading, getting the items for your build is even easier in this game. " TriniGamer wrote: Your logic about a game sells most copies hence make it superior to another game is a very much dog shit logic. Because we all know Justin Bieber has like the best music nowadays or twilight is like the best movie ever. I never said it is superior. I never said it is better just because it sold more copies. What I said was that the game actually did good despite people like you claiming the opposite. And to be honest, it still does good today. At the start of a season there are plenty people to play with and then after a few weeks it falls off. Again, PoE is not different in that aspect. [Removed by Support] Firstly I have reported your post. [Removed by Support] What has to be the dumbest most idiotic thing is that people can compare a Console Arcade shit game for COD and Madden 2016 consumers to an actual PC exclusive game like POE it staggers the sane imagination as to how anyone can make such an idiotic statement like D3 is even remotely close to POE. Thats as idiotic as comparing COD to Arma 3. One is for 10 year olds the other is for people who can actually shoot a bullet in a real life military shooting simulator that the US Army actually uses. Comparing D3 to POE is like comparing a Donkey Cart driver to a Airforce Pilot. Or a Latrine to a toilet. Look how Awesome my MTX Marauder RF looks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1695395 Last edited by Melissa_GGG#0000 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:44:06 PM	Posted by TriniGamer#0702 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:35:36 PM On Probation Quote this Post
" Romulas19 wrote: I actually like the lab, but when u have 1 chance at the uber lab per frag piece and u get freaking disconnected and loose it, that part pisses me off. Gotta admit that this is pretty frustrating. Rerolling it, while it costs you nothing (apart from time) isn't that bad. Losing the map item is kinda bad, tho. Also, while Merc Lab can be done by pretty much any build (sooner or later), Uber Izaro is kinda terrible in that regard. You either have a build that is good against him or you struggle. One of the stupid designs is him having one pool of hp for all three fights. Elemental statuses work bad, stun doesn't work at all. And the most idiotic of all is the way Cull works (hello OP as fuck Slayer) - it allows you to skip 2/3 of the most difficult fight. GGG, why?! It leads to retarded situations, in which I struggle with Uber Izaro at level 90, having quite a bit of good gear (yet using Shock as my main mechanic, and since Izaro's hp is retarded for some reason, I can never Shock him... even with 250% increased Shock Duration - gut design), being able to clear Tier 15 maps, with rippy mods, but my friend who is playing Slayer, done Izaro on level 77... :DDD Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. https://joeduncan123.imgur.com https://joeduncan1234.imgur.com	Posted by Perq#4049 on Jul 4, 2016, 1:47:40 AM Quote this Post
Perq having a change of tune. Interesting development...	Posted by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016, 3:49:21 AM
" Perq wrote: " Romulas19 wrote: I actually like the lab, but when u have 1 chance at the uber lab per frag piece and u get freaking disconnected and loose it, that part pisses me off. Gotta admit that this is pretty frustrating. Rerolling it, while it costs you nothing (apart from time) isn't that bad. Losing the map item is kinda bad, tho. Also, while Merc Lab can be done by pretty much any build (sooner or later), Uber Izaro is kinda terrible in that regard. You either have a build that is good against him or you struggle. One of the stupid designs is him having one pool of hp for all three fights. Elemental statuses work bad, stun doesn't work at all. And the most idiotic of all is the way Cull works (hello OP as fuck Slayer) - it allows you to skip 2/3 of the most difficult fight. GGG, why?! It leads to retarded situations, in which I struggle with Uber Izaro at level 90, having quite a bit of good gear (yet using Shock as my main mechanic, and since Izaro's hp is retarded for some reason, I can never Shock him... even with 250% increased Shock Duration - gut design), being able to clear Tier 15 maps, with rippy mods, but my friend who is playing Slayer, done Izaro on level 77... :DDD This is a huge deal about Lab imo, the unbalanced nature of what builds can do it effectively and what can't even look at Izaro the wrong way. Yes I can do this on my Templar (LA Inquisitor), but not 100% success rate, especially when Izaro is vomiting the green shit and dropping my FPS to sub 10. I made a Juggernaut and killed Izaro at 78, with 5-10 Chaos Gear, a 5L Marohi that I probably got lucky and bought for 20c, and the Kaom's from my Templar. That's fucked up. Now I'm asking myself the question, am I going to have to make a Juggernaut EQ every league to do this shit in? Fake Temp League Elitists LUL	Posted by _Saranghaeyo_#5448 on Jul 4, 2016, 4:37:39 AM Quote this Post