When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

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Isdp wrote:
Thing is.. most guys that whiteknight about lab might have forget that Chris said the same thing about Pvp and that shitty stream league.
He was SO SURE it was good he went derp saying it was a huge succes.

Yeah. We can see that today I guess.

People just can't accept that something coming from GGG CAN be a bad feature/idea.
And yet, past has prove us (the baddies saying something is bad) right.


It's especially hard to accept that something is a bad feature/idea, when you actually think it's a good feature/idea.
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Isdp wrote:
Thing is.. most guys that whiteknight about lab might have forget that Chris said the same thing about Pvp and that shitty stream league.
He was SO SURE it was good he went derp saying it was a huge succes.

Yeah. We can see that today I guess.

Well, I did advise them to just give up on it back then, PvP requires a stable environment and PoE is anything but.
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raics wrote:
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Isdp wrote:
Thing is.. most guys that whiteknight about lab might have forget that Chris said the same thing about Pvp and that shitty stream league.
He was SO SURE it was good he went derp saying it was a huge succes.

Yeah. We can see that today I guess.

Well, I did advise them to just give up on it back then, PvP requires a stable environment and PoE is anything but.


Yeah.
And it's bascily the same issue all over again about the lab.
Too many variables going against the lab. Lag / crash / etc.

They'll defend it for a time then maybe realize it's not worth the investment.
Like they did with PVP.
So who has actual data about the amount of players who like / dislike lab runs ? Noone, facts out of your asses doesn't count ... Same goes for GGG in case some of you fools didn't get it.
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Jayserix wrote:
So who has actual data about the amount of players who like / dislike lab runs ? Noone, facts out of your asses doesn't count ... Same goes for GGG in case some of you fools didn't get it.


I haven't read this whole thread so I don't know if you're specifically responding to someone, but there is actual data in the strawpoll. The results of that are data. I don't understand where you're coming from.

Also, from what I did glance through, some people are dismissing the poll because it's exclusively from forum readers who are probably a small subset of total players. I think this is incorrect. At some point, data becomes a decent sample size. I don't know the total population of Path of Exile players but it seems that 590 votes is a pretty good sample. As of right now, 45% hate it, 29% neutral, 25% love it.

The good thing is even those that hate it only really need to do it three times per character which will be a small amount of time of the total time spent playing (in most cases).

Also, for the record, I hate lab but I also don't think they'll ever change or remove it, so it is what it is.
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Isdp wrote:
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raics wrote:
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Isdp wrote:
Thing is.. most guys that whiteknight about lab might have forget that Chris said the same thing about Pvp and that shitty stream league.
He was SO SURE it was good he went derp saying it was a huge succes.

Yeah. We can see that today I guess.

Well, I did advise them to just give up on it back then, PvP requires a stable environment and PoE is anything but.


Yeah.
And it's bascily the same issue all over again about the lab.
Too many variables going against the lab. Lag / crash / etc.

They'll defend it for a time then maybe realize it's not worth the investment.
Like they did with PVP.
I don't remember a bunch of "white knights" saying PvP was great. Maybe instead of labeling people as white knights, just credit them with having a valid opinion that is different than yours.
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johnssec wrote:
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Jayserix wrote:
So who has actual data about the amount of players who like / dislike lab runs ? Noone, facts out of your asses doesn't count ... Same goes for GGG in case some of you fools didn't get it.


I haven't read this whole thread so I don't know if you're specifically responding to someone, but there is actual data in the strawpoll. The results of that are data. I don't understand where you're coming from.

Also, from what I did glance through, some people are dismissing the poll because it's exclusively from forum readers who are probably a small subset of total players. I think this is incorrect. At some point, data becomes a decent sample size. I don't know the total population of Path of Exile players but it seems that 590 votes is a pretty good sample. As of right now, 45% hate it, 29% neutral, 25% love it.

The good thing is even those that hate it only really need to do it three times per character which will be a small amount of time of the total time spent playing (in most cases).

Also, for the record, I hate lab but I also don't think they'll ever change or remove it, so it is what it is.


You mean 4 times per character? And for some reason that sounds alot worse then you make it sound like. Normally i would easily make 10 alts a league. This league, 3. Next league probably just gonna have 1 char total. Great addition this lab thing.

I've been vocal since day 1 about the Labyrinth, and since noone seems to care about it I'll just make a nice TL;DR:

I hate it.

(plenty of reasons why in my post history if you really want to)
Lab pretty much sucks and is not fun. The fact you have to grind it for enchants you want is insane, literally so dumb.

GGG thinks that the end game is running the same piece of content over 300 times to just get dissapointed over and over again.
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